The struggle is worse the older you get.
Ingesting them counts as consent. It’s like those banners reading: “By continuing to use this site you agree to our privacy policy.”
I keep telling my burger “no”, but it won’t respond, so I keep biting it until it will.
omg guys! this actually works!
I was just eating a fat burger for lunch and was getting really full. I wasn’t sure how I could finish the rest of it and I just told the calories to fuck off and I was able to finish the whole thing!
If only it were that simple. 😅 Most people know what they should do, the hard part is building habits that actually stick over time.
In my country, fast food is too expensive, much cheaper to be eating homestyle meals at a roadside shop.
Is that country the US? /s
But seriously, fast food isn’t cheap anymore. It’s cheaper to go to a real sub shop than it is to go to Subway! Or just make food at home.
When I was younger… you could buy a cheese burger at McDonalds for 1 buck. It’s not even that long ago. Like 10 years ago
When I vacationned in the US I was always taken aback by how much fast food used to be cheaper than an actual hearthy meal you cook yourself… Unless you forego the protein…
That’s all sorts of fucked up.
I can get a fucking steak dinner for the price a some of the more expensive fast food combos around me. Shit is crazy.
I misread the last part as “roadside slop” 😭
Are you telling me an AI made this stew?
Jokes on you I got some sort of undiagnosed malabsorption issues and won’t get fat even when I eat burgers and candy and alcohol day after day.
Coeliac disease? Does your poop float?
Well I’ve been tested for celiacs a bunch. Blood tests and even an upper GI endoscopy (prolly one of the worst medical procedures I’ve had and I’ve had a bunch, you’re forced to deepthroat an endoscope so that they can go from your mouth to your small intestine and grab a sample), my villi don’t show signs of coeliac damage.
But yeah, my poop does float whenever I have gluten in my diet, which is why I’m now without it. Also milk proteins seem to have an effect. But goddamn leaving gluten has been a somewhat challenge, not to mention how hard it is if I can’t have any nice yoghurt (Greek or Turkish mainly) or cheeses.
But yeah I told healthcare about my poop consistently being yellow/orange and floating and I even have photos from almost a year of me following it. Nah they just dismissed me said “it’s probably just air trapped in your poop”. Sure, yeah, except I’ve also considered that and the photos clearly show that’s not the case. They don’t care. Just do whatever is the easiest for them no matter how it affects me.
That sounds like a very expensive chronic issue.
Nice superpower.
no no it is not.
being a bag of skeletons that do not like each other, eating 5000 calories a day and losing weight, that is not fun.
Yeah luckily I don’t have it quite that bad, (especially after I went on an exclusion diet and slowly added things to a really plain diet and sort of figured a bit what works what doesn’t) but, yes, I definitely agree with you. Not fun.
I’d rather be fat and jolly than slim and super cranky from constantly being in some weird state of mild starvation. But it’s so mild and I make sure to supplement vitamins and whatnot so none of my basic lab-work is showing anything too far out of the ordinary, so the busy public doctors can’t be bothered to look into it since to them everything seems fine. Even when I can show them almost a years worth of literally shit pics, me having taken photographs of my stinky and floating orange poo. (I sent them to a spam-email I have so I don’t have to keep them in my phone’s gallery.)
I had a massive infection when I was that. It wasn’t just the malabsorption with me, but doctors insist you can only have one health problem at a time. I’m down to 3500 now and maintaining a healthy weight, so 👍
I don’t want to practice medicine online, but if I had started smoking weed I’d middle school I’d have way more organs than I do now. There’s some small literature about it but Jennifer refuses to publish. Thinks she has to wait until I’m dead and we have had that problem before.
I started smoking weed about around 16 or 18. Not often. But pretty daily from my mid 20’s at least. Definitely helps with eating and nausea or gi-pain. (Sitting on the toilet for an hour or two is much easier when you also have a bong and a phone with you.)
I don’t have a lot of infections and am generally “within normal parameters” as like you say, the doctors can only think there’s a single problem at a time. And at least here I always get a new doctor for most visits and I get like 30 min meeting every blue moon.
The public doctors kinda suck for complex, chronic issues. And I can’t afford private ones to that extent.
I don’t think my malabsorption is quite as bad as yours, but then I also randomly get seizures, to which I’ve gotten zero explanations for. Tested for epilepsy and had and MRI and whatnot, but nothing. But since Finland is kinda backwards when it comes to cannabis, they blamed it on my “drug use”. (Even though I have high CBD strains and they’re literally anti-convulsants to a degree iirc.)
Sort of and also not. Not getting energy from food also means I have no energy for you know, existing.
So while I might not need to worry about getting fat, I’ve also nowhere to display not being fat.
I tend to sleep quite a lot.
Youve prob tried everything but have you tried modafinil, was hyped up as a limitless pill (is nowhere near it ofch) but you dont feel sleepy on it and thats what the army uses it for or used it for at some point.
I can vouch that it works, doesnt feel like a stimulant like adderal or energy drinks, just don’t feel sleepy yet can sleep if you choose to.
I haven’t tried modafinil no. Should give it a whack if any comes available. I used to have a classmate who was on it but that was 10+ year’s ago and I didn’t really know him.
What actually worked best was the very plain diet but I just… it’s just so boring eating nothing but rice and gluten free fish sticks. But then I started to be able to just easily sleep 6 hours and get up. Felt like a real person. Because genuinely oftentimes if I try to get up but haven’t gotten enough rest, I’ll be worse off than when I’ve had a bottle of rum. Like my eyes won’t go straight and I can’t really get up properly.
Although I have to admit that some of these later long sleeps have been contributed to by the new meds I got for a broken rib, amitriptyline or the like. But it’s alaovi used for IBS and depression, and neither of those are going amiss for me basically.
But man it’s tiring. Idk how that would help anyone with depression. I mean yeah I care less about being tired and am not as annoyed about sleeping more than half the day but I don’t feel like it’s really helped my depression at all if it keeps me asleep for more than half the day.
But even without it I have issues. And I open curtains and have automatic lights to come on full at a decent wakeup time.
But yeah I could give modafinil a whack if i had some idk. But I think I’ll just have to to back to rice/fish/potatoes/chicken diet.
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“If you legitimately don’t consent to the calories, the body has a way of trying to shut that whole thing down.” - Todd Akin
Now replace calories with rape
The one fad diet doctors really dont want you to know about!
That sounds terrible.
I believe that was the reference yes
Sort of describes bulimia I guess
Or move to rural Britain. Food so gross you’d rather starve.
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I feel like a lot of people who are addicted to food don’t have much else in their life to keep them excited.
It’s like any addiction really, easy to slip into even if everything is fine, and when 1 thing goes wrong you turn to it. It literally makes you feel better in the short term and your brain tells you to do it.
Plenty of keep our lives exciting by addictionmaxing. Food, booze, cigarettes, drugs, sex, gambling, shopping, animal hoarding…
I feel like you’ve got no idea what you’re talking about.
Why?
Addicted to alcohol: Stop drinking. You can’t control an addiction so you have to completely stop.
Addicted to cigarettes: Stop smoking. You can’t control an addiction so you have to completely stop.
Addicted to crack: Stop smoking crack. You can’t control an addiction so you have to completely stop.
Addicted to food: Must be your fault for being weak-willed. Just don’t consume so much of that thing that you’re addicted to. You can control your addiction. Just stop being a loser…
The literal solution to every addiction is stop it, cold turkey. One Day At A Time. But you can’t stop eating food. You’ll die.
So it’s as if an alcoholic has to constantly have just a little alcohol. Or a crackhead has to keep smoking crack, but only every once in a while. No problem, just control yourself…
I’m sure telling people that they’re pieces of shit for eating food will fix the problem, eventually. We just have to try a little harder.
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That’s all true, and it’s all pointless.
It doesn’t matter whose fault it is or how hard it is. There literally is only one person who can fix your obesity, and it’s you. Yes, that’s hard. Yes, that sucks. But it’s also the only way.
Discussing whose fault it is and what of blame there should be is, at an individual level, completely pointless. There is one person in charge of what you eat, and it’s you. Factors may influence it, but in the end, you move the food to your mouth. You are the only person in the universe who can fix the situation, and if you don’t, it won’t get fixed.
Taking the position that you’re a powerless victim of circumstances will just hurt. Admitting that you’re obese because you eat too much, and that you can control how much you eat, will help fix your problems.
Every time you hear someone say “it’s my thyroid” or “I have PCOS” or “I can’t afford the gym”, or “I have a food addiction” or “I have BED” as an excuse, you’re talking to someone who sees themselves as a victim rather than the person who can fix their problem. All those things might be true, but none of those issues move food into your mouth. You do that, and you can stop doing that because you’re a thinking human being and not a seacucumber or a daffodil.
Getting from “I am obese” to “I am keeping myself obese” was very hard too. It requires taking ownership of your mistakes, it requires introspection. And then you go into a long and uncomfortable process of fixing the problem you caused, and it sucks. Losing weight is shit. Feeling hungry sucks, and it sucks 24/7. But damn, losing weight feels amazing and it’s all worth it.
Congratulations on your weight loss. You are correct that it is such a psychological battle to place yourself at the helm.
After having kids I really struggled with losing the weight. Now it probably was hormonal, but naming the reason doesn’t take the weight off. I had to accept that I was going to have to work harder than some people. That there is no such thing as fair - just because some tiny person can eat a double cheeseburger with fries and not gain weight does not mean that my body will afford me that same luxury.
Once I realized that there was really no way out but creating a calorie differential, I started logging calories. When my brain begged me to snack constantly I ate cherry tomatoes or cucumber slices. I worked my ass off at the gym. And I would go weeks without dropping a single pound before my body finally would give a few up all at once. But there is no such thing as easy weight loss, and you are so correct that you have to force yourself to be the boss.
The way chemicals interact with dopamine, some of those substances are a LOT harder than others. You just need to change the food you eat. I found fasting easier than meticulous dieting. I had the willpower and was enable to accept the simplicity of simply not eating.
Oh for sure…fasting is waaay easier. That’s kinda my point. Fasting is literally not eating.
Unfortunately you can’t just do it forever. Well I mean, you can…
I control my addictions by limiting supply. I buy a fifth of bourbon and a case of beer once a month and that’s what I get. If I go on a bender for a week and run out tough shit.
I don’t have problems with overeating but if I did my strategy would be to have a limited supply of things I don’t have to cook. No chips or soda or sugary bullshit. Just full ingredients that have to be prepped and cooked. When I did cook or order food it would be in an amount that’s appropriate. Add friction between me and the things that are a problem for me so it’s easier to put off consuming them. Maybe that would work. I don’t know.
I also have an abhorrence for delivery services so that helps too.
The bourbon and the case of beer are just empty calories and cancer-causing carcinogens. They’re an escape but there are other escapes out there that won’t harm you.
Oooo…Im ready for suggestions too.
I swear to God if you say something about a runner’s high or something…
There are a lot of people switching to different drugs like weed that are less harmful than alcohol. Assuming it’s the mind-altering effects you’re after. Tastiness can maybe be replicated with edibles or infused drinks.
Well it’s individual to the person what makes them happy. I had to try a lot of stuff I was meh about to get there.
If you liked tasting things, why not try your expertise at a chocolate/cheese tasting place. If you enjoyed drunk driving go buy a Tesla which replicates the experience perfectly.Upvote for the Tesla shade!
I’m open to suggestions. I’ve tried weed but it doesn’t do it for me. Also alcohol lets me have fun socializing instead of just getting stressed out. I’ll take the trade off.
Suggestion: LSD or LSD analogues in an amount just north of a micro dose. Have had folks report back feeling alert, chatty, and very open to having silly and/or indepth conversations with strangers. That and (compared to a night of drinking) waking up feeling like a million bucks, if a little tired depending on how late they stayed up as a result.
Your mileage may vary (perhaps significantly), but hey, it’s an honest suggestion. Comes with its own risks too, but doesn’t everything that isn’t just clean living and self-improvement? If you end up taking this seriously, I recommend doing a little reading first to make an informed decision (erowid.org has a lot of useful information).
Life is not always comfortable but it can get more comfortable provided you make yourself uncomfortable first.
The more crutch you use, the weaker your muscle to deal with these awkward situations becomes.
Don’t forget the “why” and ask yourself “what’s the worst that could happen” when you reach for alcohol vs simply talking to people and letting yourself naturally settle.
“what’s the worst that could happen” when you reach for alcohol vs simply talking to people and letting yourself naturally settle.
I’ve literally done this hundreds of times. I don’t enjoy it. At best I’m just on on edge. At worst I’m having actual panic attacks.
I have Panic and Anxiety. I know the feeling quite well and it I don’t always overcome it.
Like anything else, it’s a skill you can learn.
Yeah, I’ve been tanking this shit at work all day long for 25 years. I think I’m about as good at it as I’m going to get.
on top of that, if someone is using excess food to “self medicate” issues like… IDK, anxiety? by forcing the body to go from the Sympathetic nervous system response to the Parasympathetic nervous system response… yeah. Fun coping mechanism makes one fat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasympathetic_nervous_system
That’s just one approach to addiction. Personally, I think it assumes people are weak with no self-control, which seems to be exactly the argument you’re making.
The emphasis on abstinence and any exposure at all being a failure might even make binging more likely if someone gives in just a little, as their counter is now reset, so might as well take advantage.
And the obsession/fascination with the addiction target continues or even gets ramped up.
I like the moderation approach a lot better. I don’t binge drink every weekend anymore, but if I do feel like having a drink every now and then, I just do instead of spiraling because I need to treat it like some sort of personal failure.
Thanks for this, I had an idea about food addiction but that explanation puts it in perspective.
Companies also try to make foods as addictive as possible and as flashy as possible. It’s like avoiding the constant casino ads as a gambling addict, but you had to keep stepping into a casino every week forever and only doing low bets.
but you had to keep stepping into a casino every week forever and only doing low bets.
at least 3 times a day, plus once in a while in between, maybe on your phone.
good luck not going bankrupt
The title isn’t wrong. Losing weight is an extremely simple process.
Simple doesn’t mean easy, though.
Self discipline is the hard part
Were you raped by big burger, give the law offices of James Scott Farrin a call…right now.
Some people have no sense of actions resulting in consequences. Some people will eat fattening food and then complain as if they had no choice in the matter. Much like in college when you constantly hear people complaining that they’re not ready for an exam because they spent last evening drunk watching TV instead of studying, as if that wasn’t a choice they made.
Some people will eat fattening food and then complain as if they had no choice in the matter.
Yes, it’s called addiction or other mental issues. Try to be nice.
For which treatment involves helping them take responsibility for their choices. Some people instead decide they can’t possibly control their choices and choose to be helpless
And before you accuse me of being ignorant, I am in treatment for mental health issues. Getting better involves getting out of the mindset of helplessness
