For the black & white movie days… Barbara Stanwyck. I get that in Double Indemnity she’s supposed to be an evil bitch, but even in movies where she’s supposed to be the one you’re rooting for…she’s terrible. And in one movie I saw with her I didn’t even realise it was her at first and I was still like, ‘This person is terrible.’ and then I realised it was her.
For the modern day - being somebody born in the 80s that grew up in the 90s… Di Caprio. Even when I was a kid I was like, ‘There’s something off with him and I don’t know it is, but there’s something off…’ and everybody else is going on about how amazing he is. Now at least we know that he’s a predatory creep.
Adam Sandler
I don’t like his movies but I respect his hustle. He has enough money to approach an agent and tell them “I want to make this movie, I want to cast all my friends in it, and I want my character to walk away with a hot date at the end” and the agent just says okay.
They’re pretty much all the same movie with different names on them. But it’s pretty clear that everyone involved in those movies was just having a great time making them.
I think he has a career because he has serious dirt on somebody.
Have you seen Uncut Gems?
I also loved Sandler in PTA’s Punch Drunk Love
Probably the best RomCom.
Well considering that I detest Adam Sandler, obv no.
He’s an irritating little shit who never grew out of being 5 years old. He’s not funny, he’s not charismatic, I hate his ugly little beady-eyed face.
Alrighty, this seems like pretty specific hate
Would you prefer I say I detest a person but I have no justification?
He’s an immature, unfunny, limited-talent, zero charm hack.
He does not deserve a career in film.
Always hated him. Its just the most banal frat boy attention-seeking attempts at humor, and nothing ever rises above the level of his shitty Thanksgiving turkey song.
I have to disagree that nothing ever rises above that style humor. He does have a few very effective turns with serious filmmaking.
Julianne Moore. I just don’t buy her acting to the point that it breaks the immersion with everything she’s in. So I don’t watch anything she does.
Even in the big lebowski?
Jason Momoa. Can’t act, plays every character the same, and can’t seem to keep himself from smirking in every moment of screentime.
Also Paul Dano. Someone else mentioned Leo’s “imposter syndrome” and I would apply that to Dano also. I can’t tell if he’s acting too much or not enough, but he always feels out of place.
Paul Dano was perfect in Swiss Army Man, that sense of “out of place” actually worked incredibly well for that film.
Ray Romano
He was good on Dr Katz
Pretty much every comic who guested as one of Dr. Katz’s patients can count that appearance among their best work. I loved that show so much, and not enough people know about it anymore.
That’s because they were all doing their best comic routines against another excellent comic. They could tweak the timing and the delivery and do all their best stuff as good as it can be done to the best possible audience. The premise was perfect for it.
They can do that in movies and other TV shows too…
I suppose comics have done that. Like Seinfeld worked bits into the show, especially in the early seasons. But that was all Jerry’s stand up. Roseanne was the same early on, many of the sitcom premises and monologues were from Barr’s stand up routines. But it was never like weekly guests got an opportunity to film and edit a tight five. I honestly can’t think of another movie or show that did it, except maybe talk shows? But then it’s still a performance in front of an audience. You can’t workshop a line or a pause during the Late Show, unless it’s a satirical talk show like Between Two Ferns or Eric Andre.
not surprising that jerry irl turned out a pos irl.
He reason that Gene Hackman gave up acting, also he right wing asshole.
I think Gene Hackman gave up acting because of the dementia. He acted til he was nearly 75 years old.
I felt this way until I saw him in the big sick
pratt, rob machlenny, despite him making isaip, hes really super pretentious iRL which also translated to his show. watched his interviews has given over the pandemic and beond, and hes been collaborating with questionable people, luke ryan reynold and mannings, in order to mooch of people in hollywood.
Will Ferrell. He’s a creep. He’s not funny and is way too keen to play the love interest of actresses much younger than he is.
Jared Leto, Tom Cruise. Here on Lemmy they might not be as loved as in the general population, but these pieces of shit posing as human beings are definitely loved more than they should.
This radical dualism is partly an American thing. Here on the other side of the pond, most people believe (IMO) that one can be simultaneously a “piece of shit posing as a human being” and a great actor.
Is that why Jimmy Savile was given a free pass to diddle kids until after he died?
I’m not an American and I’m not watching any movies with them simply because they’re garbage.
I mostly agree with this, but apparently Leto
is a giant wormwas raping or assaulting people or something. While I do think “cancel culture” or whatever is dumb and believe separating art from the artists is an ok thing to do as a consumer, blacklisting someone from the industry for rape/SA is just about the only time I’m in full agreeance with “canceling.” Can’t be having that type of shit, idec if a Trump supporting actor gets work tbh but assault is a step too far. Liking things he was in prior is one thing, continuing to make workplaces unsafe by employing him is another.As for consumers, I think they should be free to watch what they want and boycott what they want with impunity and no judgement (besides maybe taste lol), especially if they pirate. Still liking a thing you grew up loving even after something shady comes out does not mean you support the shady thing, especially if you’re not literally supporting them monetarily.
(I also fucking hate Thirty Suckents to Mars and he should be punished for making bad music.)
TC afaik isn’t dangerous in the same sense, he’s just a face of a cult. Miscavige is the really dangerous one there and he should probably be shot, but TC just makes cheesy movies and has sex with fish. As such I don’t think there’d be a problem employing him the same as it is for Leto, but also I’m personally not watching his garbage, whether you do or not should be left to you (and I won’t judge, other than maybe your taste in movies! Lol)
Absolutely my two choices as well
Jared Leto has always given me bad vibes and with what’s come out about him recently it seems like those feelings were justified
I think the world turned a bit on Leto after his rat-mailing phase while playing the joker. But I’d say he probably still doesn’t engender as much antipathy as he should in the general populace.
Can’t argue with Tom Cruise, though. Admittedly he seems like a nice guy, but the whole funding America’s biggest and most dangerous cult definitely hampers that.
Rat-mailing?
https://www.digitaltrends.com/movies/jared-leto-joker-suicide-squad-method-acting-dead-animals/
He sent his co-stars dead animals and condoms as “gifts”
He wanted the weird image. He implied he was intending to start some sort of harem cult a few years back, which was really a hippie holiday for millionaire women in a very LA way. He absolutely played up his image as a self obsessed creep looking to be worshipped to sell this experience. I honestly feel everything kinda gross about how Jared Leto feels is marketing, although God knows why, as it must hurt his career.
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He can act. He was good in Legend and great in Interview with a Vampire. Shame he’s a terrible person.
I don’t like Tom Cruise but at this point I don’t even remember why. Is he a shit head?
Scientology
That and making your wives sign a contract waiver (beyond a prenup) is fucked up.
That, and pretty much every movie he’s in these days are just an ego based adrenalin rush designed by and for himself. All the parts he plays just come off as “Tom Cruise half heartedly pretending to be X”.
I really like “The Last Samurai” despite Tom Cruise playing Tom Cruise
I feel that’s old enough not to be in the Tom Cruise produced issue area. In the 2000s, he was in War of the worlds, Collateral, The Last Samurai and even showed he still had range in Magnolia, Vanilla Sky and even Tropic Thunder. It wasn’t quite the same as the 90s where he was cast in a huge range of great roles, and it definitely became less common over the 00s.
I’d say from 2010 onwards, he’s stared in 0 films that don’t feel warped to be an advert for his specific style of masculinity. Even if one was good, Edge of Tomorrow, it’s still a Tom Cruise movie.
I feel the opposite. I want to hate him so badly, but he’s a good actor. Like I was absolutely furious about his casting in Interview with a Vampire, then he killed it, was gaunt and vampire as hell. He is not good looking to me and seems a shit person, but my goodness he can act.
Doesn’t he basically always play the same person?
Have you seen him young? I could watch Topgun to get myself off to.
Ben Afflict.
Was very weird how everyone liked that he was chosen as Batman, he was such a bad Batman. He actually gave rich prick vibes.
I like the actor, but definitely did not do well in that role. They went for the big name over appropriate casting and the movie suffered
I mean, the acting wasn’t terrible, but the writing was fucking atrocious. I think Ben could have done a stellar job if it had been literally any other production team behind it.
I agree, I think he could have pulled off the same persona written for both Bale and Patterson’s batmen. He’s also played a lot of assholes, and I’m not sure how much that just develops into a feeling that gets under your skin.
I dont recall everyone liking that he was chosen as Batman, in fact as I recall most people were like “Ben Affleck?! That guy from Mallrats and Gigli?”
Same, never liked the guy either
I think that’s why I enjoyed Gone Girl. I didn’t have to like him and his smugness or whatever worked into the character.
Not defending Affleck here, but isn’t Bruce Wayne a rich prick?
No, he pretends to be but deep down he cares more about justice.
Or at least that’s the version I’m used to from Christian Bale’s Batman and the games.
In the dark knight trilogy, Bruce intentionally lives on the streets for a few years and only goes back to use his money to fight injustice.
The whole point of Batman is a rich guy who has a very strong moral compass cause his parents were murdered. It’s not suppose to be realistic, it’s a fantasy.
I most loved how Kevin Conroy’s Batman from the Animated Series portrayed this aspect of the character. Conroy did measurably different voices for Batman and Bruce which made it completely clear that Bruce was the false persona being put on for appearances while Batman was the real voice and personality, and also sold how good Batman was at pretending to be Bruce when needed. Conroy’s Batman isn’t just a ninja genius detective, he’s also a good actor, and to portray that as well as he did Conroy had to be an awesome actor.
Conroy’s Bruce Wayne is as close to his “normal” speaking voice as I’ve ever heard, but he makes it sound like an affect in ways that are hard to describe. He was truly a great one.
My hot take is that Christian Bales was the worst thing about that Batman trilogy, and I love Christian bale in most things he’s in.
People liked Batfleck because he was the closest to comic Batman looks-wise. Tall, physically imposing, square jaw, rugged, etc. He was also the best part of the Snyder movies and that’s a low bar. His version was also an older, disillusioned Bruce/Batman which is why he was more prick-ish.
gave rich prick vibes.
psst. Batman was often portrayed as a rich prick.
Julia Roberts.
She was awarded a Best Actress trophy or whatever the fuck it’s called… She couldn’t even act surprised. Because she obviously knew she was getting it ahead of time.
I dunno why any of them act surprised, they and we are perfectly aware they know beforehand. It’s wierd that they do.
Do they always thought? I think mostly, they just act grateful, and happy.
Being an alleged Actress receiving Best Actress Award; Weeks to prepare; blows performance.
The entirely farcicle performance?
You really have trouble connecting basic concepts don’t you
Yeah, me and ya Mum.
The block feature is the best thing that Lemmy has - I’ll think I’ll use it right now.
Excellent.
Actor/Comedian Bill Burr. I always found his comedy to be a “gateway drug” to right wing radicalization.
Not a right winger though. I hope he’s a gateway drug for right wingers to some actual human empathy
He is definitely not right wing. He’s speaking up against that shit very loudly these days
I disagree with many of his views, but I definitely wouldn’t call him right-wing. He seems to me more like a libertarian from before “don’t tread on me” actually meant “please tread on me.” Hell, he’s said the CEO of Nestle should be shot.
He also downplayed the risk of electing Trump (first time around) with a “what’s the worst that could happen” attitude. I also can’t stand his misogynist attitude towards women “what could Michelle Obama teach us? How to tell if a dick smells presidential?”
To me that’s an attitude catering directly to the alt-right, incel crowd.
This is what gets me too. Dude has some demeaning views on women’s rights topics.
mike rowe did the same, after trump got elected in 16’ he got down and started downplaying donald.
I felt the same until I heard him speak for extended periods. My wife LOVES him and convinced me to give him a second chance; I think you should too. He has the affect of being a rightwing dipshit, but if you give him a chance, you will find this is not the case.
Bradley Cooper, he just seems like a smug douche deep down.
that’s because he plays a smug douche in almost everything. it’s a part of his “character” to exude confidence but I agree it comes off as smugness.
The man is a god damn saint. He delivers food to the elderly on the weekends, my grandma adores him.
Owen Wilson
He’s actually pretty good as Mobius in the Loki series
That’s true. I think some “bad actors” just get roped into playing particular characters, and then when they get a part that’s completely different it turns out they’re not actually that bad.
There’s also the element of maturity. Young actors rarely know how to handle both new fame and their craft
Oh, woooow
Add Ben Stiller and Vince Vaughn to that pile. Can’t stand any of 'em.
Ben Stiller is a really good director however… see Severance for an example
Ryan Reynolds because I’ve met and had the displeasure of working with him twice.
Story time?
Yea don’t just drop a shit like that and don’t flush.
Jennifer Coolidge. She plays the same character in everything she’s in, and it’s a character I don’t find funny at all.
Curious. I always thought she was more of a lolcow. Where that’s just how she is and everyone happens to think it’s funny.
Yeah I don’t feel her honestly even seeing herself as an actor per ce. Like she’s typecast because that’s who she is (or at least thats her public persona) and she just rolls with it cause it works in her favour and people love to see it.
