“Have you ever been called an AI vegan?”
“No… Shit no! I believe saying something like that’d get your ass kicked!”
I don’t use it because I have no trust in it.
also because it’s shit, if my memory serves me, I have successfully used AI for a productive task 1 time out of 7 attempts so far… it saved me 5 minutes
That is part of the trust thing. I spent more time fixing the word salad it spat out than it would have taken to write the document.
Yes, hand in hand…
Anecdotal of course, but every person I know who claims AI is a huge productivity booster simply trust it blindly.
I can’t even get “Copilot” to return a proper answer from its own meeting transcript… just yesterday there was some confusion about an IP address we exchanged in a past meeting… I asked Copilot to check the transcript and give me the IP of the vendor’s server (which I pointed by name of system and who spoke it in the meeting) and it gave me the IP of MY server, functionally the complete opposite of what I was asking but with full confidence in its answer
Sounds like you are not eating enough small rocks a day. You should eat 1 small rock a day.
Wtf this is the weirdest thing to read while taking a shit in the morning
This was an actual response that Google’s stupid Gemini LLM really gave somebody. The notion was lifted from a satirical Onion article which the LLM regurgitated as if it was an established fact.
We need to poison the models with more satire on the Internet.
Yup, satire is lost on the dumb and LLMs have no intelligence.
Don’t use it for things you need trust in then.
Inspiration for creative writing prompts for example. Things that make you double check every word that has been generated or where it doesn’t matter they hallucinate.
This is someone more obnoxious than ai tech bros
I think this IS an AI tech bro. Or at least an AI tech bro dick-rider.
This is such a stupid name for this.
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You’re not wrong. I am skeptical of AI, and I worry if that makes me a Luddite. I think refusing to use it for anything probably does qualify one as a Luddite. Using it for limited purpose with oversight is the correct approach.
Get out of here with your nuanced take. This is Lemmy, we hate AI it uses up 1bazinga gigalitres of water each time you look at it.
Now excuse me while I go play some video games and search Google, those things use zero electricity.
I sense jealousy in this one.
I don’t. If it makes me a Luddite, I’m a Luddite.
What doesn’t change is that this is a train heading toward a derailment at highspeed while on fire.
Just today I had to walk through why GitHub copilot should not be used for security purposes. I explicitly told the engineer that a constructed url would be detected as a potential XSS vector by our vulnerability scans. They implemented several things, most of which did nothing. Finally, I grabbed the documentation on how to fix it, gave them the line number, gave them the function, and let them build and test it. It ran through the scans and of course it passed.
I get the desire from leadership. I really do. But I’m more interested in our products not costing us more, especially when the LLMs are going to fail the economy on a wide scale.
I think it depends on the reason you do not use it. The Luddites were primarily frustrated over automation displacing their high-skill job with low-skilled ones that produced worse quality goods. It’s a 2 for 1: we are losing the jobs we need to survive, but also we lose the personal touch from the work of artisans + lose appreciation for their talent.
I am not carte blanche against AI as a concept, but it really does seem like a technology that makes interactions worse quality, more depersonalized, and on top of that it has a horrible externalized environmental cost which benefits nobody in the long run.
Addendum: I believe technology has the power to be liberating when it provides for all of us, and oppressive when it concentrates wealth+power into the hands of moguls and tyrants.
Corporate simp
Y’know, as long as we’re childishly name-calling
Abstaining from a thing does not make one a vegan. That’s not how any of this works.
It’s like how they put the word gate after something to say that it is a scandal involving the former word.
Somesort of political scandal involving road maintenance? Oh yes well that’s roadgate then. Even though the Watergate scandal was in fact it scandal in the watergate hotel, rather than a scandal about water.
Someday we’ll have Gate gate, or maybe even another scandal at the Watergate complex, so Watergate gate.
I can’t wait!
I mean, abstaining from animal products makes someone a vegan, right? If you abstain from AI products then it would follow that you’re an “AI vegan”.
It follows, but it is also feels like click bait.
A definition of vegan is:
A vegetarian who eats plant products only, especially one who uses no products derived from animals, as fur or leather.
There is an environmental parallel, and it made me read the article to see what they were on about – so I guess it worked.
To be clear, I am very pro environment (I live in it); I just feel like this is crossing the streams of related, but completely different movements, isn’t particularly helpful.
Abstaining from animal products is just vegetarian. Veganism requires an extremely strict adherence to a very specific set of rules concerning animals.
Vegetarians can eat cheese, which is an animal product.
Awe so the article author has a vendetta against vegans got it.
I’m sex vegan. Cry about it virgins
It only counts when it’s voluntary, tho.
No mayo in the bedroom? Why even bother.
Vegan aioli just doesn’t cut it
I’m a sex vegetarian gotta be a bit open
I’m a sex pescatarian. I will not be answering questions.
Sex flexitarian is where it’s at
“Vegan sex” is actually a different thing. It’s penetration but you stop before you cum.
If the human you’re fucking consented, then consuming their fluids is vegan. Hell if they consent, eating them would be vegan too.
Animals do not consent to having fluids extracted or their lives taken and flesh consumed. Animal agriculture keeps animals in filthy, torturous conditions too, which no animal would ever consent to either.
I had a fish that died by suicide. We didn’t eat it, but arguably
It was kept in captivity by you though, which is not it’s natural habitat so any choices it made were, arguably, under duress.
If you lived by a creek and regularly recognised a fish swimming by, and one day this fish killed itself in front of you- you still shouldn’t eat it as fish contain a lot of parasites and there’s very likely also something toxic in the water causing the fish to harm itself this way.
But yeah, sure, hypothetically: if for a year or so you knew a wild fish that lived in an unpolluted and ecologically healthy body of water, and one day this fish chose to kill itself in front of you. You could, if you really wanted to eat a suicidal fish, eat the fish and say it was vegan because the only harm that came to the fish was through the un-coerced choices of said suicidal fish.
No animals harmed during sex…hmm
Disagreed. I am an animal.
Count me in
I think some AI use is clearly worth the costs (like helping with scientific research or accessibility), some clearly isn’t (like generating spam), and much falls in a gray area where reasonable people can disagree. So do I think it’s ethical to use me? In many cases, yes - but I understand why thoughtful people might conclude otherwise, and I don’t think they’re wrong to avoid AI if they’ve weighed the considerations and found the costs too high.
This is the dumbest shit I’ve ever read. Refusing to submit to corpo ratfuckery isn’t a lifestyle choice. It’s common sense.
It is though
- Teetotalers: alcohol vegans.
- Straight edgers: drug vegans.
- Recycling: waste vegans.
- Solar power: power vegans.
The possibilities are infinite if you are a netaphor vegan.
- Amish: techno vegans
- Mennonite: techno vegetarians
I interpreted that as techno, as in the genre, for too long.
Freeze! Vegan police!
Chicken’s not vegan?
I mean “Straight edgers” is on the same level already
- Working class: retirement vegan
- American: healthcare vegan
- German: humour vegan
My god, it’s unstoppable
- Republican: democracy vegan, justice vegan, decency vegan, consent vegan
Not trafficking children vegan
Age of majority vegan
On this blessed day, we are all truly vegans.
I love your profile image. I should reread Rice Boy.
High five, fuck yes. Cool person detected. I think you’re the first one to spot it, too.
I wish I had that series in print. Might be time to look into that
Ooh, print would be amazing. $30 for the softcover, wonder about shipping though…
I have to believe you’re underestimating how recognizable TOE is.It’s a hard one to gauge for me. I’m pretty sure I found it via stumbleupon back when that was really great. I read the whole thing in close to one go, and I never hear anyone else talk about it.
stumbleupon, wow… That takes me back.
You’re hereby invited to /c/vegan, as you appear to be a Northern Hemisphere vegan.
Incels: sexual vegans
I keep trying to eat meat but it just won’t cooperate!
netaphor vegan
Found an autocorrect vegan!
In my most upvoted comment. I’m hating that typo so much.
Carnivores: vegetable vegans.
This works so well specially for those people that refuse to touch anything “not cooked” in their plate or that is green.
And jus lik that we come full circle 😂
Brilliant lol
It’s like taking the last syllable of the name of the hotel and tacking it onto every scandal, because you didn’t understand that it’s part of the name of a hotel, and not some sort of indicator of scandal.
The worst was the Col scandal.
(Sorry. So sorry)
Please see yourself out
- Cyclists: transport vegans
- Hippies: war vegans
- Vegans: food vegans
- Lemmy users: social media vegans
Recycling: waste vegans.
The Germans are probably upset with this comparison
What for a nonsense. Do these other countries not sort their waste or what? Do they not know about efficiency? Next thing you’re going to tell me they don’t sort their white, green and brown glass separately.
Stupid title, but in all honesty, now would be the time to create a new religion where there are restrictions on hyper modern things like AI, robotics, etc.
We must not create a machine to counterfeit human thinking. That could be the most important phrase in the entire thing.
Almost like there might already be a text or novels out there that warn on the dangers of mankind’s hubris.
stupid headline from the guardian but that’s just expected.
If we go this route, there is also from for AI Crossfitters
i wonder if they came up with such term to mock those who dont want to use ai and possibly actual vegans on the side.
They use to mock us with “Luddite” but the Technologists looked into that actual movement (rather than the caricature) and agreed, “yeah sure, like them”. That took the sting out of the pejorative, so they picked another mocked group to connect it with.
And here i am not using it because I’m old and cranky.
I just don’t use it because it’s shit and doesn’t do anything I need any better than I can do myself in the same time.
“Hey why don’t you use this tool you don’t need? It does the thing worse than you do and also fucks up the planet in the process!”
