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    4 months ago

    They really don’t like it when you don’t swoon over the latest new hot trending macguffin.

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        You’re right, but I can still fight you if you want, say we meet at the park near sundown?

        I’ll even let you get the first hit in, I’ll be walking around, and you can just run up and punch me.

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          Perfect, that is so fair. Please do not tell me which park or how to recognize you. It wouldn’t be sporting otherwise!

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      I saw Interstellar in a classy New Zealand theater that gave creatively-cooked meals during an intermission. I feel like that would be a well-appreciated change of pace for a lot of people.

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      Brutalist having an intermission was so nice and made me realize how much I’d love more movies to have this. Sadly I don’t think we’ll see this being done more as that little extra time probably cuts into the amount of showings you can do in a day.

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    Marvel haters on their way to pick a random negative viewpoint and assign it to the movies regardless of whether it applies

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    …the military doesn’t come off in a good light in any of the movies that isn’t the first Cap, and even then they’re antagonistic by sidelining one of their best chances at winning due to bureaucratlcy.

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    I don’t want to watch anything for three hours TBH. 95 minutes is the optimal run time for a film. FITE ME.

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      I think 2h is optimal. Not too long, but can still fit a proper story with enough time for development.
      90 minutes is enough for children/family movies

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        Children/family movies can also have plenty of story and development. Case in point: Inside Out, runtime 1h 35m.

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          Inside Out is kinda forced through though. It ought to have been 2 hours.

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              If they actually had to flesh out all the ideas in the movie, it would have been much longer.

              It’s the same in most of these animated films. The ideas only touch the surface, and instead of developing the ideas deeper, or allowing the audience to contemplate the ideas before revealing the movie’s take on it, they simply jump around topics and throw more and more sub plots into the film to make it last 90 minutes.

              I think they do it to keep the attention of the audience and to embrace as many potential types of people as possible. However, in my opinion it mostly seems like the writers have an attention disorder.

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            They were worried too much about accidentally including any lesbian subtext. Any more run time and they’d have to make Riley gay.

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        I was being a bit edgy with 95, it’s basically the minimum. Even in animation, if you have a bit of a complex structure with a plot twist, you end up well over 100.

        For example, the Incredibles, with an unorthodox five act structure, clocks in at a very briskly paced 115.

        The trouble with superhero movies is that I can just feel myself spacing out during the filler-laden action scenes. Within every 3hr long marvel film is a much better paced 125 minute film just trying to get out.

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      I do personally enjoy a long film if it’s doing something good with the run time. Oppenheimer was a solid one recently, even with it being so long it was still densely-packed and I don’t think it would have been improved by being shortened. That said, I think two hours is roughly my default sweet spot. The further over that you go, the better you’re going to have to be to persuade me. I’m ready to be persuaded but it needs to be something

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        This seems like a good time to mention that fucking Casablanca has a running time of 102 minutes. For most of the history of Hollywood 100-120 minute running times have been the norm.

        Gigantic runtimes are a feature of depression era economics, the 1930s and now.

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    The last one I tried was Thor: love and thunder. I went out of the cinema 25 minutes in, didn’t get my money back. That movie was filled with forced jokes that made no sense.

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    Guardians of the Galaxy 3 and Deadpool & Wolverine were good. Nothing since then has looked interesting.

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      I found Deadpool & Wolverene supremely painful. Matter of taste I suppose. Haven’t seen any other dress-up movies in a while.

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        What did you find painful about it? While I dont think it was historic level cinema, I fid find it entertaining.

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          There is a significant difference between something being entertaining to watch in the moment, and it being good.

          I watched D&W in theaters with my boyfriend. Had a deadpool themed margarita. Had an excellent time, highly recommend.

          Hours after leaving the theater, I started actually thinking about the movie. The more I thought about it the more I decided that it actually wasn’t very good. At the time, I had a detailed list of complaints. I’ve forgotten the details since then.

          The broad strokes though, it’s insulting.

          D&W actively disregards and insults established MCU canon. They had a chance to expand the lore, instead they shat on it.

          The best moments in the movie could be described as “HEY! HERE’S THAT THING YOU LIKE!!! YOU LIKE THIS RIGHT?!?! LIKE THIS!!!” Which is the most disrespectful kind of reference you can do, as it’s insulting to the media and even more so to the audience.

          Ryan Renolds has a writing credit for this movie, and he has demonstrated that he fundamentally does not understand the metaphysics of marvel comics. Therefore, his commentary on the state of the MCU can fuck off. Sure, the later MCU movies had a lot of problems, but I can tell that myself, I have the power of media literacy on my side, so I can tell when the pot is calling the kettle black.

          If I were willing to actually put effort into it, I could come up with actual examples to go with my complaints, but I don’t feel like watching the movie again any time soon.

        • Not OP but personally the plot was a monumental example of wasted potential with regards to the plot. The villain’s motivations being the poorest.

          Even then, fight scenes between basically immortal self-healing characters are a snoozefest. Add that to the imo hit-but-mostly-miss humour and you’re just waiting for the credits to roll really.

          I honestly think I’d rather watch Eternals, and that was pretty bad too.

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            Are you going to name something you like so we can shit all over your tastes, or just point at things you hate like a coward? One might say, and I will, that you’re dumb if you go into a movie like Deadpool and Wolverine looking for a cinematic masterpiece rather than fan service and violence.

            • I don’t mind a good bit of fanservice and violence, but that’s also kind of why I felt D&W was a bit disappointing. The fanservice was kinda mediocre as a lot of characters were just “mentioned” rather than properly explored, and as I said violence between unkillable characters is kinda dull. I have enjoyed a lot of the other Marvel movies though, most of them even (and that includes stuff like Age of Ultron and Iron Man 3 that a lot of people seem to like shitting on). Non-Marvel I quite liked the Dungeons & Dragons movie, I thoroughly enjoyed that one. It’s not a cinematic masterpiece or anything, but the characters are likable and have some depth and development, there’s a decent plot going on and there’s enough fanservice for DnD fans to go around.

              No need to get so defensive if someone doesn’t like something you like.

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                I definitely agree with you that DnD was legit, it deserved far more attention than it got, and not just for the writing and performances.

                You can call that defensiveness if you like; I think that downplays the intent of pointing out the constant barrage of painfully biased internet whiners regarding anything comic book related at play culturally, but I’d argue there’s an objective measure that’s unfair in your criticism. In D&W the interpersonal violence is an extension of emotional processing, and an expression of who the characters are, and also why they are uniquely suited to help each other heal in ways their powers can’t help with. Basically, violence is all they know and how they both solve all their problems, and being unkillable gives an opportunity to work out other traumas without they typical consequence of ending people who would want to help. But yeah of course there’s an element of bias at play for all of us, and flaws in every movie to varying degrees.

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          Different person. But I thought the first two were genuinely good movies.

          The third felt like an excuse for cameos and jokes. It was entertaining, but not necessarily good.

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          It was lazy, it just did the same as before without adding anything new. It felt like watching the first one on repeat, sped up.

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            Huh, I think that just wrong. The character of Deadpool is still him, which would be strange to change, but I think alot of it was unexplored before and an interesting contribution to the Loki storyverse. Also Hugh Jackman did a great job reprising the role of wolverine.

            Deadpool is a meta character, but despite that (or because of it?) I think it’s a fresh take on the state of the MCU each time, taking pot shots at the existing formula from within it.

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      Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four were both really good. Actually, I thought Ironheart was really good too.

      It really feels like every other movie since Endgame has been really good or really bad.

      Ant-Man 3, The Marvels, and Captain America 4 were various degrees of not good.

      Echo and Secret Invasion weren’t good either (actually, I think overall the shows have had a better track record overall).

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        I agree. I haven’t seen Thunderbolts yet, but I just saw Fantastic Four last night and thought it was actually really good compared to a lot of the other recent Marvel movies. Even the ones I liked all felt like they had the same script more or less, but this one it seemed like they went for less action and easy jokes and just focused on the characters and the story. I liked it a lot.

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        Fantastic Four is good? I’ll have to see it at some point, then. Those poor characters have never managed to be in a good movie before now, so I kinda forgot there was a new MCU one.

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          It’s pretty much the perfect Fantastic Four movie. They’re actually characters in this one instead of caricatures of their main personality traits.

          And it’s lighter on action and heavier on the story. Without giving away too much, it feels a lot more appropriate for the characters.

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          the og ones, that were pre-disney were better than the current FF4, better actors too. although it was alsoa bad movie.

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        With Ironheart, the show is okay, but there’s just no way to make the main character work. Unless they transition the character to be a villain.

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    Are we pretending this is Marvel thing exclusively and not an ALL superheros thing? Lazy slop memes, aren’t going to stop lazy slop movies. Do better.

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      The Boys break away from that.

      And that “do better” bs is pretty fucking condescending for someone implying that memes on lemmy might affect the shit hollywood spews out, if only they were less lazy and sloppy.

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    is it? top gun maverick would be the most recent us militaryganda out there, it resulted increase in RECRUIT/enlisting numbers last year.

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    I quit after the snap movie. It was literally an hour and a half of all 30 main characters meeting each other and then everyone died.

    It’s not like DC is better, the last dark knight movie was really good, but don’t get me started on “we can’t fight each other, our moms had the same names”. What a waste of time.

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      endgame was the “best” marvel movie, everything else after was just bad, and disney is clearly grasping at straw since then. the ones with agatha were enjoyable, shes seems better at acting than scarlet witch.