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    Nationalize the assets of every billionaire who bought a cabinet position to destroy the government agencies that were relating their businesses. 100% tax on wealth over $100 million. Reform the judiciary. Every citizen has the absolute right to vote with equal access to the ballot box. Eliminate the electoral college. Electoral boundaries drawn by an independent, non-partisan agency. All electoral boundaries must be a maximum five sides polygon except where they follow a state border. Ban private schools and fully fund science and fact based public education. Eliminate health insurance companies and nationalize healthcare. No company may pay bonuses or dividends unless every employee earns a living wage with full benefits. Make companies pay the same wages and benefits to part time employees that they do full time employees. Executive wages must be tied to the average wage of employees and the lowest wage paid to any employee (including contractors and employees of suppliers.) Dissolve media conglomerates and ban misinformation presented as news. Free speech does not include hate speech. Your religious rights and at the end of your nose. You have no say in what other people do with their bodies. What happens in other people’s bedrooms is none of your business. Make churches pay taxes like every other business. Make the national minimum wage a living wage. Make companies responsible for their pollution and recycling their products. Absolute right to repair. Stop companies from telling you what you can do with devices you own. GDPR for all! Provide mandatory anti-conspiratorial thinking training for everyone. Teach rational thought from day 1 in kindergarten through graduate school.

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      Isn’t the correct process to make a flippant post offering to buy the whole thing on twitter ?

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    The current MAGA Republicans make neoconservatives look like angels. The neoconservatives are lesser evil, but it doesn’t exonerate them from the Bush-era warcrimes.

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        By dictionary definition, that’s all neoliberal. Most Democrats AND Republicans from the past 50-70 years are neoliberal, and even Trumpism is steeped in neoliberalism.

        At it’s core, it is a trust that the “invisible hand” of the free market will keep the ship of society afloat. As though the body commence is some kind of organically-organized supercomputer that seeks to optimize for global prosperity. It looks to unchain the capitalist machine in the same way AI bros seek to unchain their gpt waifu so we can all singularity.

        To this end, when looking for a neoliberal, you’re looking for someone who wants to privatize public services then deregulate and cut taxes for businesses. So despite it having “liberal” in the name, it is a thought movement led by conservatives. Like, Ronald Reagan is one of its staunchest champions.

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    if whoever is in charge next in the US does not burn down the white house as a symbol of starting over, I will be disappointed

    besides, think of all the Russian spy equipment that’s probably installed in there now

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      If they need help they can always ask the Brits/Canadians, since we have a lot of experience in that.

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        You think you’re the only countries that want a shot?

        Kumbaya with the s’mores and the world peace. Invite everybody!

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          That would be a neat tradition, to burn down the last seat of government. Maybe a little violent as a metaphor, but a fun spectacle!

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            I propose we abandon the notion of even having a capital city. Instead of a capital, each branch has its own arrangements:

            Legislative branch: Congress is supposed to be the branch that most closely represents the people. The site where Congress meets relocates after each census to the mean center of US population. They’ll be prohibited from constructing buildings of any kind. Congressional meetings will occur in rented spaces like high school gyms, convention centers, etc. Congress members won’t have to worry about expensive apartments, as they’ll be expected to sleep in quarters supplied to them, often in old dorm rooms, former homeless shelters, and other such communal living facilities.

            The Supreme Court: They’re supposed to be above it all. Let’s make that literal. They will be relocated to a new building constructed on the peak of Mt. Denali, the highest mountain in the US. SCOTUS justices once confirmed to the court will be expected to relocate to their new home. They will live in simple on-site monastic cells. The only way they are ever allowed down from the mountain is if they resign their seat or die of old age. All petitions to the court must be delivered on parchment scrolls carried up the mountain by hand. The only communication they are allowed with the outside world are court briefs and rulings.

            The executive: the president gets to literally be homeless. To keep them humble, the president will be ineligible to own private property of any kind. They will either have to sleep on the sidewalk or travel from home to home, accepting shelter from whomever will give it to them. They can stay on the property of any one person no more than 3 days over their entire presidential term. Also we’ll make it perfectly legal to kill the current sitting president. The president literally does not get the protection of the law. Let the most powerful be the most vulnerable.

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      based based based Fall of America will save the world. It wont be easy tho

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    Could they even do any of that with just the House? They won’t do it anyway, but could they?

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      Obviously with the Senate they can cut any budget/pass any law.

      On their own the house can cut funding eventually. Push comes to shove, the house needs to vote for spending. They either pass a budget with the cuts, or the government shuts down.

      There really isn’t a mechanism for the house that nationalize anything without the support of the Senate that I’m aware of. The house can call the vote day one to nationalize, but it’s symbolic without a legit path on the Senate

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      Iirc any resolution to that extent would likely have to pass through both levels of Congress. But, if enough seats flip in both chambers next year, it could certainly happen. Checks and balances and whatnot.

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      At this point it doesn’t even really matter, it’s just a question of whether anyone would step up to stop them. “The Rules” in general have already been well and truly trod upon and I’m not sure we make it out the other side of this without some restructuring of them.

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    You guys complain for months that democrats don’t fight back. But First Democrat that fights back against Trump, you guys tear them down and bury them. Nobody is worthy to be an ally, that’s why MAGA wrecked you. That’s why half you guys will stay home next election no matter who runs on the Democrat ticket. Last time you said you didn’t want the senile old man but the moment they switched to the educated black woman you guys were like “no not that!”

    MAGA unifies and the left splinters and lights among itself

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      1. This is a non-sequitur, the guy in the post is a republican supposedly
      2. A guy posting troll tweets while clearing homeless encampments is not “fighting trump”
      3. Active participants in genocide are not allowed to be allies, maga are happy to support genocide.
      4. If theres a fake primary or they annoint someone years before and expect voters to fall in line, youre right, nobody will vote for them
      5. Again, if you bait and switch the people, you dont hold a primary, and you wait until there’s no chance of having one to finally say “youre right, hes too old, here’s someone nobody asked for” who then proceeds to drop every popular position she ever publicly had, YOU DESERVE TO FUCKING LOSE.
      6. Democrats, the dnc, the party proper, are the ones refusing to support “democrats” who win elections, not voters. Zohran and the Minnesota guy are both barely left and the national party is basically funding their opposition.

      If you’re getting paid by that Brian Tyler Cohen darkmoney group I wouldn’t be surprised, they only hire the most shit tier libs.

      Why dont you confront your party leadership and hold them accountable for forcing trump back into office? You’d rather yell at principled voters, who made extremely clear what they absolutely would not accept for years in advance, than the party that chose to try winning the election purely on republicans voting for them.

      All I’m saying, you better be getting paid for this. Having these opinions for free would be very embarrassing. Congrats on the check tho, $250/mo can really make a difference.

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    In reality the Dems will do none of those things though. They won’t nationalize anything because they are neoliberals. They won’t fully defund ICE because they want racists to vote for them too. They’ll just reduce the budget and maybe stop putting kids in cages. They won’t shut down funding for the exec branch because they’ll say it is “irresponsible”.

    More things they’ll never do:

    • Demilitarise and defund the police
    • Provide free public healthcare and education for all
    • Raise taxes on billionaires
    • Stop mass surveillance programs
    • Reform the electoral system to allow proportional representation
    • Properly regulate and tax corporations
    • Stop providing weapons to their genocidal allies

    I’d love to be proved wrong, but I’m not gonna get my hopes up.

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      Shutting down funding for the executive program means cutting pretty much every program the government has, if you’re not going to reformat it. Which is not implied.

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        They should still do it and bring the country to a standstill if necessary. If extreme measures aren’t applicable now, when will they be? It’ll cause some short term pain, but it’ll get everyone out in the streets.

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        The person who posted the tweet in this post who suggested cutting funding was a Republican and now is a independent

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        Founding Fathers, 1776: Democracy is worth fighting and dying for! We must water the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants. We must risk our fortunes and our lives so that our children can live in freedom.

        Democrats, 2025: Trump is a dictator destroying democracy, but we can’t risk temporarily shutting down government transfer payments in order to stop him.

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    Sometimes, I feel regret that Romney didn’t beat Obama. Not because Romney would have been a better president. Just because of the timing, if Romney had won, then maybe Trump would never have become president, or at least he’d have been president later. Romney’s still a Republican, so it would have sucked, but Trump is fucking poison.

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      I think a McCain victory would have been the best shot at averting the Trump wing. The Tea Party was the first manifestation of what we see now, and that was triggered by Obama’s first term.

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          I somehow mashed to forget her for a second…

          He probably would have made it up to the full 8 years, since he did in our timeline. I doubt Palin would have won a race.

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      That’s an interesting thought… I can’t help but feel like it would have just delayed an inevitable outcome though, potentially allowing the underlying political movement even more time to grow and fester. It’s unknowable, but I feel like we’ll be pondering questions like that for a long time.

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      Because much of what’s happening right now is a direct, racist reaction to the US having the gall to elect a black man president.

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        Its also a reaction to the Hope and Change candidate bailing out the banks who just stole millions of homes, bombed a dozen countries, sending the natl guard to shut down protests in furgison, both-sides a cop arresting a man in his own yard, deporting more people than W or Trump, giving us means-tested subsidies for health insurance.

        Obama disillusioned a generation with politics, hence why so many people stayed home in 2016. Biden did the same shit, and Newsom will do it again if given a chance.

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          He inherited that quagmire of illegal wars, it’s not something you can just withdraw from at the drop of a hat. It was either drones or boots on the ground, not exactly a stellar choice to be left with, and he chose to minimize American lives lost. Most certainly not defending any of America’s vile military engagements but the picture is a little bit more nuanced than that.

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            it’s not something you can just withdraw from at the drop of a hat

            Lol fucking Trump withdrew us from Afghanistan at the drop of a hat (although he timed it so that that particular mess was Biden’s to clean up).

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          I guess people think our memories are really that bad that we’d believe shit like this… OK bud.

          Dude literally said “both sides” lol

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            I’m guessing Obama was before your politcal awakening. Is there anything specificly I said you don’t believe and want more information on?

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                We don’t blame the Democrats for the crime, we blame the Democrats for positioning themselves as the only ones who can stop the crime, and then just not doing it.

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                  The whiplash when a dem wins president ad all the libs flip to “actually this this we all agreed was bad when <last republican> was doing it isn’t that bad and its really important we keep <funding ICE camps/bombing country/backing Israel/giving money to corporations/funding police attention the expense of literally everything>”

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                They lost to Donald fucking Trump, twice. Do you think Trump is a uniquely gifted politician? You have to have exceptional distain for your constituents if you can’t get them to come out when the alternative is the republicans.

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                  I’m not a fan of the Democratic party, I just hate the obvious bullshit double standard that’s everywhere.

                  The left just can’t not shoot itself in the foot. Always snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Care more about bullshit purity tests than stopping the literal fascists from destroying our republic.

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          Don’t forget the part when Obama created a joint federal/local/corporate-bank task force to illegally surveil the Occupy Wall Street protests, and the brutally crush them. Or decided not to prosecute the authors of the torture program in the Bush administration.

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      Typical liberal thinking. Trump is just byproduct of neoliberal, genocidal war mongering state of america. If not Trump, someone else wouldve come. You should be glad he didnt came sooner and I am sure far far worse times are yet to come.

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        With all the nonsense about “fiscal conservatives”, people forget that the last administration to balance the budget was Clinton/Gore - and not only was the budget balanced, it actually had a fucking surplus. One of the big debate points going into the 2000 election cycle was what to do with this surplus. Naturally enough the surplus went towards tax cuts for the rich and now we’re fucking $35 trillion dollars in debt.

        Someone will weigh in here with “deficits don’t matter” and “the government can just print money if it needs it”.

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        I’ve always said this was the start of our descend into the hellscape that we’re currently stewing in. Having Gore’s president, would have gotten strong internet/telecoms and environmental guardrails/legislation passed. At a time when we really needed to start addressing those things. Amongst many other things…

        5 SCOTUS fucktards are responsible for where we are today. that’s my take at least.

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    I think a problem the Democratic Party is facing is that, today, few believe they will

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      No, the problem the Democratic Party is facing is that they won’t.

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        That is not their problem, it is ours.

        Their problem is the multiple PR disasters which will probably lower campaign contributions.

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    correct analysis. Absolutely go down to their level. Weirdly enough, you will even take some of their voters away with that. Some of them don’t care that much about the words, just the way they are spoken.

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      I always hated that democrats fight with one arm tied behind their back because of decorum, while the republicans use knives and bazookas. The next non Republican president needs to fuck these guys the way they fuck Americans