If anyone’s feeling pretty hopeless about finding this out for the first time, I recommend this documentary about the cartoon frog’s creator suing Alex Jones and trying to take back his ownership over Pepe from the white power weirdos. It’s very uplifting and the artist is a pretty likable guy.
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I instantly dislike the guy.
Dang I didn’t know users did that on YouTube. I guess I can’t say I blame you, it’s a shitty thing to do
They don’t. It’s regional restriction.
Oh. That is what I used to assume. Was Zr0 just messing with me?
No, Zr0 made an uninformed assumption as well.
Probably had to do with the country copyright laws :/ I had personal videos blocked because they used music that in over country was free to use and in others wasn’t… or maybe he hates you in particular 🤷♀️
Oh, thanks for sharing this experience, because that makes totally sense to me. The error message is kind of misleading and gave me the impression the blocking was on purpose.
Documentary guy is a good guy after all.
Fuck Youtube and all the music industry.
Check if any invidious instance can play it, or NewPipe/PipePipe on android
Thank you my friend, what a good suggestion. Next thing would be to just use archive.org. However, for this I would need some help.
If you’re on desktop/laptop, FreeTube works pretty well too (has invidious functionality built in)
From what I’m gathering, it seems like one group is more “traditionally” American racism… And the other group is more like WW2 Nazi racists?
Either way, they’re racists and not worth the oxygen they’re consuming.
Can I just continue to have incredible distain for all racism? Because I’d hate to be branded as a sympathizer to either group. They both sound horrible.
The only surprising thing to me here is that racists hate eachother enough for this level of violence. I don’t necessarily consider that a bad thing, I just thought they would… I dunno, bond over their mutual hatred of other races, rather than fight eachother over who is more racist.
… Not that I’m complaining. Having racists kill other racists makes it easier to fight against the groups that remain. Both groups of racists deserve to be put down. Not that I have the ability, capability, opportunity nor motivation to do that work myself… I’m just not going to complain when one group kills the other, and the first group ends up in jail for life because of it. Honestly, that’s an absolute win IMO.
Edgelords that treat their racism and violence as fuel for shitposts
vs.
Traditional “Brick and mortar and nooses” racists
Potato, potato.
Authoritarians, which are not unrelated to racism, if left alone, will start stripping rights from each other. In a spherical cow sense, they can’t really bond with each other because they fundamentally hate other people, like as a concept. This is also sorta why their social media sites never take off.
I generally hate people. I don’t want to be authoritative over anyone. I don’t want the responsibility.
I wonder if their hate is just a side effect of wanting to be superior over others. And that’s what drives their base actions.
More or less, yes. It’s the satisfaction that comes from power.
The main ingredients of fascism are fear (urgency) and a desire to reclaim a power once held, like in a birthright sense. A result of this is that the power they hold now is a result of the fear they’ve fostered, which means they quite literally cannot survive people becoming unafraid. There must always be a group of people to hate, even amongst each other, or the kingdom they’ve built vanishes.
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This isn’t even getting to the part where Nick Fuentes gets red in the face arguing that he’s definitely a real incel, and denying accusations that he secretly gets laid.
He fucked that catboy didn’t he?
I wonder if he found a cute catboy earlier in life he would have turned out differently
Cuddling cute catbois is a known preventative measure to Nazism.
Please cuddle catboys.
instructions unclear: found neonazi catboy bf
Hellsing fan?
the normalization of nazi culture makes me want to fucking die
This lot don’t even have a snazzy dress sense. They should be required to at least do it properly and at least where the uniform, let’s have a bit of self-respect around here.
I didn’t even know about the Groypers till Charlie Kirk was killed by one.
I only knew Nick Fuentes as “That guy who tried to sue Antifa” and later “The Right Winger who disavowed Trump in 2024”
Apparently there’s controversy about him not “really” being an Incel because he had a girlfriend in high school, and he believes anything outside of being celibate is gay, because being affectionate with a woman is unmanly… and I’m like…
“This is too much even for me.”
Wait’ll you hear about that time Fuentes accidentally streamed himself watching gay porn. Or his date with a catboy!
Go on
Lots of info on Nick can be found on his RationalWiki entry. See the “Haggard’s Law” section for info and links to sources about the things I mentioned.
I’m sorry to ask, but is there a source that isn’t Rational Wiki?
No no, I shouldn’t let my own issues with the site get in the way of good faith reporting. I’ll have a look at this when I can
There are a lot of sources. Try the following search engine queries:
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Nick Fuentes streams gay porn
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Nick Fuentes Catboy Date
Nick Fuentes Catboy Date
That sounds like name of a softcore visual novel on Steam.
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I didn’t even know about Charlie Kirk until Charlie Kirk was killed by a groyper. I knew there was some rightwing crank being mocked for having a tiny face on a huge head, but that was it. My main reaction after the shooting was “damn, that really is a tiny face”.
Lol exactly the same here
He was the splitting image of the default Mii character.
They had to go for the neck because the face was too small a target.
I only learned about him when I was still on Reddit via people posting quotes on the ‘whitepeopletwitter’ subreddit. Between him, Steven Crowder, Ben Shapiro and Matt Walsh being constantly posted there, I damn near lost my mind at the sheer combined idiocy of them all and had to unsub.
I know him as “that MAGA loser who’s a fiercly proud incel and got caught with tabs of gay porn open on a stream”.
But to be honest I thought he had completely vanished into insignificance over the last 5 years. Sadly this appears incorrect.
That would be volcel not incel. Can’t be involuntary if you want it.
Not at all an important detail but pepe did not become a white nationalist symbol until winging dip shit out of touch loser candidate said it was.
pepe still not a hate symbol, pepe is for all
They’re just losers who live online trying to outdo each other to hold the most extreme view points possible so they can stand out in their depressing little discord shitholes. It’s such a depressing reality I can’t even imagine it. No wonder they become mass shooters.
Losers that have the ear of the president. Fuentes less but he also been to Mar A Lago for lunch with Maga Pompous
You’re also describing lemmy, except for the mass shooter part… for now. With the stochastic terrorism that dominates certain discussions (Gaza, Luigi, etc) it’s only a matter of time.
I’ve never felt the need to shift my opinions to please the crowd on lemmy. I mean if someone is really deep in certain communities that could happen, but that’s the loser part. Online chat groups shouldn’t become a focus of your identity.
Lemmy isn’t in the same realm as Groypers or neo-nazi cliques or any of that nonsense. Really?
Lemmygrad / .ml, baraag, the assorted far right instances
I’m guessing “Gaza” here means “if you don’t support Israel you’re a nazi”.
The two sides are racists who disagree regarding faith and whether Jewish people are their equals or not.
I despise every new term for Nazis.
They’re just fuckin’ Nazis. Don’t spread their newsletters.
group names are just as important to them as nationalitys are to a nationalist or pronouns to most people
Ok, but nazi is just a newer, more specific term for fascist.
And it’s useful to have specific labels so you can understand when they’re fighting each-other, and perhaps encourage that.
My one consolation over finding out about this whole fight between different groups of fascists (besides the fact that the fascists are fighting each other, that’s always a net positive) is that I can refer to it as gang violence.
Kirk was killed in a turf war between his gang and a rival gang immediately after trying to downplay mass shootings by asking “with or without gang violence?”
Wasn’t he saying something about “gang violence” literally the moment he got shot?
His literal last words before being shot were answering the question of if he knew how many shootings there have been in the past 10 years (after blaming them on trans people one question before) with, “With or without gang violence?” Not even a second later he had a fountain of blood spurting from his neck.
Just when I thought it couldn’t get any more ironic
Yes you can. But nobody else will, especially not those in power, because we live in an extremely racist “culture.”
Of course they won’t, but you can rage bait conservatives super hard with it by twisting every racist thing they say about black people being gang-bangers back on them.
There’s not just 2
So the one thing about fascism, especially in its late stages, is that it tends to eat itself alive. When they run out of enemies, they create enemies.
While I agree fascist tend to indulge in self harm via factionalism, I don’t think this is really that, nor is it late stage. We’re approaching the stage where the fascist shed their traditional conservative mask and start enforcing their real ideology over the traditional conservative party.
People forget that 4 years before the Nazi started their purge on greater German society during Kristallnacht they first purged and consolidated power in their own house during the night of the long knives.
This is it.
The “true believers” in neoliberal conservative values are useful to make the rightward march to increasingly reactionary politics seem proper and reasonable to anyone who isn’t paying attention.
But when shit is about to go down those same talking heads are a liability if they aren’t cool with barely contained barbarism.
late stage
You are far more optimistic than I, my friend.
I mean the government isn’t necessarily late stage but if the fascists are fighting over who’s the biggest fascist that means shit’s up.
Maybe, but authoritarian regimes do often purge their ranks, and it doesn’t always mean anything
This is not the late stages. This is not even the honeymoon.
According to the show and soon to be documentary, Cyberpunk 2077, it’s gonna get weird.
I mean, most white people feel the same way. We learn about it and it’s like, wtf.
Wait till you read about the meme wars. This goes deeper than most people know.
It’s about whether you hate Jewish people the right way or not. It has nothing to do with brown people as both groups equally hate them.
Kirk supports Israel and Fuentes and the groypers do not.
Kirk supports Israel and Fuentes and the groypers do not.
supported please.
Im sorry, what are you asking for?
I enjoy the use of past tense when he is mentioned. Now that we know he died by the hands of people just like him its even better. White on white. Hate on hate.
Other than the fact both were white Im not sure you can say they are “just like him”. There’s some significant differences in their views even if he turns out to be a groyper.
The only real difference is one was pro Israel and the other wasn’t.
Exactly, Kirk would let my Jewish family members he but would really hope they move to Israel so they can die and Jesus return. Fuentes would outwardly hate these same family members.
There’s some significant differences in their views
lmao. Ok yeah. Deep differences between nazis and the kkk too. Real important to remember!!! \s \s \s jfc.
there are difference between nazis and the KKK and you would have to be incredibly ignorant to not see them if you look for them. You dont fight brain cancer and skin cancer the same way despite both being cancers.
Nazis hate ______ and KKK hates ______
Both believe white christians are a “superior race” and use fear, disinformation, and violence to make their views clear.
What’s the difference outside of who’s the target of their ire?
I think they are asking you to use past tense even discussing attributes of the awful former human charlie kirk.
I see it as a light hearted joke, but with an undertone of “but seriously fuck that guy – sorry, former guy”
This
parrotracist has ceased to be! He is a former bigot!“light hearted” yeah my heart soars
