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honestly I don’t mind it - the grooves allow you to actually hold the fucking thing one handed without being a basketball player
You hold your phone by the camera bump???
lolol not literally - it rests against my index or middle sometimes
The bump keeps the phone from sliding down past your fingers on the back
This is exactly the reason. It makes large screen devices easier to hold for people with normal sized hands.
Sounds like you need a case with actual grip more than anything. Maybe they should stop making phones smooth and so big? They are all phablets these days.
if they sold smaller phones I would’ve. I prefer not to use cases; this isn’t a problem, but a complaint on the status quo. I sympathize with those under 6’3 who have to purchase further solutions. agreed that phones should be smaller in general; like they were about few generations ago.
When they eventually give us a good smaller phone, we gotta buy buy buy it so they get the message. I think the industry is just fully of copying, if one company makes a bigger phone and finds some success, the next company does it etc
I had the mini for years but she finally ran out of juice recently ><
I don’t mind a camera bar (or “visor”). It’s better than the stupid bump they used to use, because it’s stable, and it also provides a slight angle that makes the phone a little more visible when it’s laying on a desk.
What I don’t like is a super thin phone that has no meaningful battery and is easy to bend. “Bend” means that dropping it results in more than just shock force.
Take a look at JerryRigEverything’s iPhone Air video.
It took 200+ pounds of force, in the middle of the device, to bend it. It was very impressive.
I’ve heard that, and it’s very impressive. Unfortunately, I weigh more than 200 pounds, and putting a significant fraction of my weight on the device is not a particularly remote possibility, given my track record.
Well, you cannot cheat physics. You get two of resolution, depth, and thin-ness. If they want resolution and depth, they need the optics to do this.
Parascope lenses don’t require cheating physics.
No, but they require thickness for the high resolution sensor then.
Periscope? (my Sony phone has one)
Give me a fuckin’ Pipboy. I’ll be so ripped after a month of watching porn on it while wearing it.
I have no problem with functional protuberances. In fact, I wouldn’t mind seeing more, such as a universal mounting connector of some sort? I don’t know if I am atypical in this regard, but I like mounting my phone on things. Handlebars, car dashes, tripods, mic stands, etc. There are solutions for this, but they invariably involve something wrapping around and blocking some of the front side of the phone, which has become increasingly problematic over the years with screens pushing towards the edges. My bike holder sometimes blocks the front-facing camera needed to unlock the iPhone, for example. But if there were something on the back side that a mounting bracket could securely latch onto, none of this would be a problem.
Your phone is only as thin as it’s thickest point.
It’s really funny to me that we’re having these conversations all over again. I had the Moto Z back in 2016 and it was almost half a mm thinner than the 2025 iPhone Air. (As always, here’s Apple still playing catchup, a decade later this time.)
I honestly didn’t mind it - the Moto Z had a Moto Mods battery that snapped on the back (in a MUCH more elegant manner than Apple’s magsafe battery implementation in my opinion) and so I always knew that was an option if the battery life became a concern over time. And I loved that the extended battery made the back of the phone perfectly flush with the camera bump too, so if you elected to add battery life, it was literally what we’ve all asked for the whole time: Just make it thicker and add battery. But if you didn’t need extended battery life, then you had a razer thin phone (and a camera bump), probably the thinnest I had until the Fold7 at 4.2mm.
I wish that Motorola’s solution had stuck, because they solved this problem already, meanwhile everybody is here reinventing the wheel over and over again in 2025. 🤦
The next iteration will be a cheese wedge, 1mm thin on one side and 1cm thick on the other.
I’d rather have that. it’ll actually stay stable when you put it down, plus the screen would be slightly tilted upwards so you can see it better when it’s just there on the table.
Actually razor blade sharp. One atom thick iPhone
People slicing their hand are just holding them wrong
Yeah, but if it’s an iPhone… you probably have to pay Apple a proprietary fee; due to becoming injured by their patented technology.
you need mechanical stability a bit too, so if it’s too thin, it just breaks too easily.
IMO the perfect size for a smartphone should be the weight of an apple (fruit) or some other snack like croissant, something that you can comfortably hold in one hand.
Check it,
Fresh fruit & a hand written letter!
Do phones really need to be so skinny? Part of the reason I always get a case is not only for protection, but also to deliberately make it a little thicker.
No, they’re just desperate for some kind of differentiator at this point because phones haven’t meaningfully changed in five years. Hell, maybe ten.
Yeah, the only real improvements in phones over the last decade are the adoption of USB-C and the addition of extra camera lenses, and I never really use the extra lenses on my phone.
I replaced my 2016 Galaxy S7 last year with a Motorola G32 mainly because the Galaxy wasn’t holding a charge or getting software updates anymore. The G32 is actually lower in spec in a few ways (lower-resolution screen, no wireless charging) but it’s still more than adequate for my needs, has a headphone jack and MicroSD slot and supports LineageOS (although I haven’t installed that yet.)
Even the S7 upgrade wasn’t strictly necessary but I saw a good deal and didn’t like the way my LG G2’s volume buttons were on the back.
We’re well past the point where smartphones should’ve been fully comodified and where we should be able to get generic versions based on common standards (i.e. a common platform open to OS developers without the need for a specialized build for each phone.)
Yeah they have. They removed a bunch of features so they can sell more dongles and cloud storage. You know, “innovation”.
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Only Essentials brand had something new a while back. Two magnetic power pins on the back and Wireless USB protocol so you could attach add on devices like the 360 video camera, and the Pro audio DAC. It’s too bad they closed up after a few years. The phone was great. Cermamic and Titanium body.
This has become one of the useless marketing figures everyone chases because they made it seem important in the first place.
I absolutely prefer having something a bit thicker, as it fits the palm better.
I can understand people wanting “smaller" screens cause they don’t have huge hands/pockets
But slimmer phones when the cheapest ones (< 200€) already are like 8mm, I don’t really get it, at this point it’s just a structural weakness, like the geth would say
The only advantage would be to have a bulky phone case while still maintaining a 6 or 8 mm width, but still it wouldn’t prevent your phone from bending
You clearly have not watched Zack’s YT on this. The big ones bend and break way sooner. It’s not even close.
My guess, what we are witnessing here with the Air is just a stepping stone to a foldable. As a standalone I’m with you, it’s the inferior phone. Just not because of the structural weaknesses - it’s not weak at all - but due to smaller battery, less cameras and less speakers.
Oh, and case less gang checking in.
I was recently messing around with an iPod touch 5th gen, with dimensions 4.86 inches (123.4 mm) in height, 2.31 inches (58.6 mm) in width, and 0.24 inches (6.1 mm) in depth. It weighs approximately 3.10 ounces (88 grams). It felt fantastic in the hand and I want a phone that size now.
I was near an Apple store a few days ago and tried out the iPhone air, it was honestly really nice in the hand. I wouldn’t buy one, but seeing in person, I kinda get it.
I’d kill for a modern iPhone 4 form-factor with Android or Linux.
I’d love to see a modern specs Nexus 4. Loved that phone!
Till you put on the heavy rubberized case for protection
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Seriously. How did we get to the point where so many phones are designed for you to set them down directly on the camera lens? What are we doing?
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It’s because most customers use cases. They know this, and so Apple can say they made it thinner, when the reality is that it’s always not that thin. Especially when you can throw a case and a mag safe battery on the back and make it even thicker than the pro model.
It’s sorta like the late 90’s-early 00’s when people were swapping the shells of their Nokias and pagers.
The thinner phones just allow the user the option to change the appearance to what they think looks good without becoming too thick.
And even then, it’s hard to find a case where the lip is higher than the camera lens. The best you can usually get is the lip and the lens at the same level, so any slightly uneven surface can scratch it.
Tbh, the camera bumps are nice if you use phone cases. They allow the phone+ phone case thickness to be much thinner than otherwise. Provided they aren’t enormous unexplainable bumps like the pixel phones’
Pretty well packed with sensors isn’t it?
It is not, especially compared to solutions like Samsung’s that have a different bump for each camera. The food thing with that design is, you can expose the camera and make the case form-fit around, which doesn’t make the phone thicker. Google pixel cases that do that expose this entire slab to the elements though, this glass will get scratched quite easily
You’re taking about this? It won’t sit flat on its back, rocking around every time you tap it.
Not if you use a case. That’s my point
I have a case for this exact phone, it still rocks with a case.
Any phone case worth more than a pile of dog fecal matter will put a rim around the lense glass or indentation to keep it from being flush with the rest of the phone (and surface you lay it on). The problem with this particular Samsung is the lense portrudes far too much, making cases excessively thick or in my case, wobbly when laid flat.
I prefer it when camera bumps are symmetrical but still individual
Ew that looks hideous
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Next version isn’t even going to have a camera. You’ll just generate the image
the phone will just generate shit all the time - texts, voices, images, music - all to post on AI-gen only social media. And it doesn’t even need human interaction to do that but you are legally obligated to buy 12 of these per year or you will be deported to Moldova.
As somebody who extensively travelled to Moldova for the wine, food, and the parties I say, not too bad. I’ll be in the first train
hey, don’t spoil the party for everyone! Repeat after me “they are going to deport me to Moldova! oh shit! damn!”
Don’t give them ideas!
Wow
i fucking hate tech companies
