The judge cited the Supreme Court’s recent decision establishing parents’ right to opt kids out of LGBTQ+ inclusive lessons.
A Boston judge has ruled in favor of a Massachusetts dad who sued his local school district to ensure his five-year-old son is never exposed to books featuring LGBTQ+ characters.
As the Boston Herald reported, the father, identified in court documents as Alan L., is described as a “devout Christian” who objects to the inclusion of certain children’s books featuring LGBTQ+ characters in the kindergarten curriculum of Joseph Estabrook Elementary School, where his son, identified as J.L., is enrolled.
Religion = denial of reality.
It should be illegal for religious people to indoctrinate children with their religious beliefs.
But in USA they have turned it on its head, and made it illegal to teach the truth because of religious superstition!It’s the same as the “basic biology” argument. Twisting something to the point it breaks in order to justify their hate. The Bible has gay people in it.
In the Bible, one of the people that Jesus heals is the slave of a Roman soldier. In the original Latin text, the word they use is for a kind of male slave kept as a consort/sex slave. King David, one of God’s chosen, is a bisexual man who had multiple wives and a male “friend” who “loved him in a way that no woman ever could.”
Being gay or bi was so normal back then that they never bothered to spell it out, not thinking that centuries later some heretics would twist their words to spread their hate.
In Texas, voters just passed a constitutional amendment giving parents the right “to exercise care, custody, and control of the parent’s child, including the right to make decisions concerning the child’s upbringing” specifically for cases like this. Almost everyone I spoke to was in full support of it and kept saying “obviously a parent should decide what’s best for their child”. But as someone who grew up in a toxic religious family, it makes me so sad to see that there’s no protection for kids in these situations. Parents can ensure they’re doomed to a life of ignorance and bigotry before they even have a chance. :(
Legalized child abuse.
Why even have kids if they can’t be warrior-slaves for your crusade?
is never exposed to books featuring LGBTQ+ characters
Bad news on that Bible, buddy
That is when you know you are losing when you have to hide the truth from your kid.
To think, if we’d had this kind of majority 20 years ago, we could have removed the entire study of evolution from high school criteria.
If there’s a gilod, this guy’s kid will be gay, and not shy about it.
As jesus preached “Don’t be a bag of dicks!”, and it’s never stopped one one of these bigoted fuckers from cherry picking the message of their god. May his sons loafers be so light he floats.
Kid is going to have a rude awakening when he runs a web query on his dad and everything that comes up has “gay” in the title.
Dad vs Reality lawsuit incoming.
Doesn’t this open the way for a parent to sue the school over Christian symbolism? A parent could should take that school to court over a Christmas tree.
It’s Heads-I-Win and Tails-You-Lose in the Trump-stacked court system.
You’re looking at the judiciary as some kind of impartial machine, but you need to see it as a Vegas Casino, where you can maybe win a hand or two here or there but the game is stacked against you by design.
There is no world in which a conservative court bans Christmas Trees or Crosses or any other Christian iconography, because these courts are run by evangelical Christians for the benefit of evangelical Christians. You might as well ask a Chinese court to remove images of Mao from the classroom or an Iranian court to outlaw the Koran.
yes and you know it doesn’t work that way
In Massachusetts it might.
it absolutely does
Pledge of allegiance should be banned too
Opting-out should just be done away with. I had to deal with that, during school, and 8th grade was my first real exposure to non church kids.
I naturally avoided everything that was obviously gay-ish, just because of how I was brought up. I’m still learning things that I have to unlearn, 25 years later.
It really fucks you up in life, if you’re like me and are an actually decent person that was just raised in the fucked-up cult of Christianity.
The entire process of getting woke was just a constant realization of the huge amount of different kinds of people and ideas I had spent my life shitting on.
I haven’t done anything besides just blind hatred, but given how fucked the process is (of coming out of it), I’ve blacked a lot of it out. Kinda like I blacked out most of the week one of my brothers died. I’ve just kinda put up crime scene tape around memories that hurt too much.
The opt-out thing is only a tiny piece of my trauma, but it did hold me back yet further. And kids will humiliate kids that don’t get to go to the sex ed classes. So beyond getting held back which I only realize the damage of now, at the time, being late to learning about sex was embarrassing, which I did feel immediately.
I get why the option is attractive to super religious and controlling parents, but given that they’re all just blatantly wrong, this option should just be removed from their arsenal. If you want to legally harm your children, that’s what private school (read: religious school) is for.
But public school should not support that choice. If you’re gonna hurt your kids, you better have to pay out the big bucks to do it.
I mean yes but also You’re out of touch if you think the judges value internal consistency like that.
no wonder the system is a joke
I really hope that kid comes out as LGBTQ in the future. I can just imagine them as Columbia at a Rocky Horror shadowcast midnight screening. Seriously!
Christianity has harmed more people that LGBTQ people have. Many types of Christians have to try and save you by converting you. LGBTQ folks aren’t trying to convert you.
It’s not just Christianity. Religion is the excuse to be hateful
Compare the number of Christians convicted of child sex crimes vs the number of LGBTQ+ who have and it paints a pretty one sided picture.
I bet the numbers per capita are pretty similar.
You’d probably lose that bet
Why do you think that? Is it because of all the news you’ve read about Catholic priests?
What do you think the balance of news was like before that story came out?
The bull hypothesis has got to be that people all have the same base line propensity. The only thing I know that changes it is themselves being abused as children.
I would actually bet slanted slightly towards LGBT because of self-id. The mental hurdle of accepting that you’re attracted to people of the same gender is hopefully lower than accepting that you’re attracted to children.
Then again, maybe the opposite is true for christians.
Numbers wouldn’t be meaningful, only percentages.
It would be the same result either way
It would probably be a pretty similar percentage. Plus lots of LGBTQ+ people are also Christians. What would they be counted as?
I’ve actual heard decades ago people insist that the LGBTQ community was in fact trying to convert people.
Imagine thinking evangelicals aren’t the ones converting people away from a religion of hate, hubris and hypocrisy.
they never stopped saying that at any point from then to now
Many types of Christians have to try and save you by converting you. LGBTQ folks aren’t trying to convert you.
That’s one motivation behind their behavior. Since they are constantly trying to manipulate people to join them, they assume the gays are recruiting, too.
“The fluoride in the water is making the frogs gay” - one of America’s greatest thinkers /s
Death. At this point, I just wish death upon these hateful people.
If you wish death to someone, expect the same to be wished to you. Some people don’t like other people and that is OK. There is no reason to show violence towards them until they are a threat to you.
I’ll clarify: Many of these people wish to “eradicate transgenderism”. They want to eliminate a group of people. How does one go about that exactly? Make us flee? Throw trans women in men’s prisons? Camps?
Way back when, I tried to show that we are humans, like them. No more. If they’d leave us alone, I would have no problem with them. They are free to think and believe what they want. But they won’t stop. They’ll never stop. And they have all of the power. If they throw the full force of the state at us, we would have zero chance of being able to fight back. I don’t think any of my neighbors would get in the way of a pig with a gun for me.
So yeah, I wish death upon them now. Fuck ‘em. They want to erase us from society? Then I wish the same for them.
Well, I don’t support the violence from both sides here, so I wish you only good luck then. Especially, because of rising chances of a revolution and/or a civil war in the USA.
They are a threat. They are murdering people right now.
I’m not one to wish death on people, but at this point, what other choice is there? it’s clear they’re not going to stop :/
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i’d be embarrassed to be this ignorant. wow.
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So you find basic biology to be idiotic?
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You support a child rapist. You like that? Are you also into that? Is that why you support Trump? I hope you get a paper cut that is really annoying.
yeah, but that’s different because it’s dumpy. he’s a god among mortals, apparently, and can do as he pleases.
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I don’t care that he’s a child rapist
Yeah, why wouldn’t you support a fellow nonce?
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Oh you guys definitely know much more than me about that.
Wishing death on me, cause I don’t want my kids to become to cut of their penis.
Pardon? Want to give that another try?
The other choice is to wait. If the system exists against the laws of world and has not enough energy to sustain itself - it will collapse/dissappear. Thus, there is no need to kill such people until they are a direct threat to you. They will either adapt to a new world or dissappear by themselves.
Read MLK’s letters from a Birmingham jail. Pay close attention to the bit about the white moderate, you may find it personally relevant.
The problem is that they are a direct threat to a lot of people.
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It’s not a fucking movement. This isn’t a belief or thought process or anything. It’s who people are. You’re too wrapped up in propaganda and ignorance to see it.
David Lynch said it best: “Fix your heart or die”
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lmao. tell me you’re ignorant without telling me you’re ignorant. Being gay or not has NOTHING to do with morals. Are animals in the wild that are gay immoral? or does that only apply to humans? homosexuality in wild animals is a well documented fact. It’s VERY common. But that doesn’t count, right?
No one in your family is gay that you know. There I fixed that for you. Because you’re repressing your own family.
ah, I see. you’re just a moron.
Ive just blocked the moron. I dont want his stupid ass in any if my feeds. Suggest everyone do the same.
The same user has made similar comments in other threads, either they’re actually a complete braindead conservaturd or a troll. Either way, not worth anybody’s time.
I’m gay and I wasn’t groomed into it. In fact, my early childhood is marked by a lot of confusion trying to grapple with parts of my identity while adults like you said horrendous things about gay people around me. I tried everything I could to not be gay, to please my very religious parents, and that caused more harm than any of the beatings my “Christian” father gave me over the years. I’m sure you’re too interested in hanging onto your ignorant and hateful views to try to expand your understanding of anything though.
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I’m telling you that didn’t happen. I didn’t know a single gay person growing up. That’s part of why I was so confused when puberty came around and things were different for me. Also, I had a bunch of adults around me making it clear that being gay was the worst thing you could be. Those are the adults that damaged me the most. My family is like yours. They thought there were no gay people, they’re all homophobic. That didn’t stop me from existing, it just made it harder for me as a child. You’ve never met or known an actual gay person, have you?
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Wow. You’re an absolute fucking psycho if you genuinely think that.
Edit: holy shit, your comment history is wild. And further cements my opinion that you’re an absolute fucking psycho.
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Nobody is doing anything to your kids. What the actual fuck are you talking about.
How else do you get rid of cancer?
Education. And just because they’re trying to pervert the education system doesn’t mean there aren’t other routes to education, but protecting and rebuilding public education needs to be a top priority.
How are you like this? Do you not live in the same reality that I do?
Bigotry ftw
Ban books that show people wearing clothes with mixed fabrics! Its against mah religion!
Why do fundamentalist Christians choose homosexuality specifically as their hill to die on?
Leviticus 19:19
“You shall keep my statutes. You shall not let your cattle breed with a different kind. You shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor shall you wear a garment of cloth made of two kinds of material.”
Deuteronomy 22:11
“You shall not wear cloth of wool and linen mixed together.”
Why do fundamentalist Christians choose homosexuality specifically as their hill to die on?
It’s an easy out-group to identify and target.
That’s very interesting. So much of culture often comes back to biology or geography. It’s funny how an evolutionary advantageous biological instinct of forming an in-group vs out-group to manage resource scarcity eventually led to fundamentalist Christians hating gays.
With the advantage that the target can’t easily opt out of it. It’s probably fairly easy to stop wearing clothes from a wool/linen mix (although avoiding cotton/polyester might be harder), so your target disappears.
This guy is probably one of two types: a) He’s a culture warrior who gets a little thrill if he makes life a bit harder for the gays because he was told they are the enemy or b) he needs to uphold his current cultural zeitgeist because if people are allowed to do the things that make them happy then what’s stopping him from banging his hot neighbor Greg and if he can do that he’s wasted his life married to a person he’s not actually attracted to and it was all a lie. So he goes super hard on being anti-gay to stop those intrusive thoughts. Stay occupied. Don’t think about it. Hate hate hate.
Or c) this parent is a pawn being used by right wing interests.
Ding ding ding
Amazing they enroll someone in school to not learn things. Devout ignorance.
well they identify as christians, and devout ignorance is literally what they subscribe to so it checks out
Also worshipping a callous, narsiscistic bully lest they torture you for eternity, so it is really weird when people say someone like Trump is unchristian. He’s actually godlike as he appears in the book, no wonder so many fall in line.
Nothing inspires curiosity more than making something forbidden.
That kid is gonna find out ALL KINDS of information that his dad doesn’t want him to know about from his peers. Some of it good, most of it inaccurate, but you go ahead, dad.
Dad is setting his son up for not talking to him when he’s an adult.
We should all be so proud of Dad already preparing a life of dying alone. Bless.
Wait until neonazis will use this to opt out their kids from holocaust education!
