• Basic Glitch@sh.itjust.works
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    Ah yes, return to the roots of boys will be boys

    “For more than a decade now, Scouting America’s leadership has made decisions that run counter to the values of this administration and this department of war, including an embrace of DEl and other social justice, gender-fluid ideological stances. This is unacceptable,” Mr Parnell wrote on social media.

    What were they up to before that decade?

    Scout’s Honor

    In February 2020, the Boy Scouts of America filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. By the end of that year more than 82,000 former Scouts had come forward with claims of sexual abuse that took place during their time as members of the organization — meaning, of course, when they were minors. Their claims span across decades and generations, all over the United States.

    I know not everything they do relates back to protecting the wealthy global pedophelia network, but honestly this probably does.

    There were even troops where boys from unstable homes were targeted and recruited by “scout leaders” with the promise of offering them better lives.

    New Orleans Boy Scout Troop 137

    The scoutmasters preyed upon children from unstable backgrounds and used them for child pornography and their own sexual pleasure, as well as pimping them out to pederasts in and outside of Louisiana.

    By May 1977, nineteen men were charged with abuse in relation to Troop 137. According to then-district attorney of Orleans Parish, Harry Connick, the clients had abused other children in thirty-four different U.S. states, as well as in England. Contacts of the troop to pederasts abroad, as far as Saudi Arabia, were discovered, as were filing cabinets full of letters dating back to 1956 of men requesting access to boys.

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      The scouts they are talking about is the org Scouting of America. Girl Scouts is a separate entity and I don’t think they get any kind of subsidies from the military?

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        yeah I thought they all ran under the same macro entity but honestly I don’t have a lot of care for either.

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    Wait I’m confused, are they trying to ban the Girl Scouts?
    Or is this like, the organization formerly known as “Boy Scouts” is just “Scouts” now, (like it’s Co-ed scouts) and the chuds are pissed at that because boys are now playing with girls?
    Jesus, these fuckwits get pissy about the stupidest fucking shit.

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      It’s the second one. Girl Scouts they have a separate beef with, I’m sure. But this is about Scouts being accepting of girls, because that "violates "DEI, because these assholes have decided they have a ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY on tolerance.

      I wish I was fucking kidding.

      I hope all the pious jackasses that told me (and keep telling me) that Kamala/Biden was just as bad are fucking happy with themselves…

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        Could not agree more. If Kamala were president none of this shit would be happening. Alex Pretti, Renee Nicole Good, and dozens of others would still be alive, thousands of families would not have been destroyed. Anyone who says “The Democrats are just as bad” are on crack.

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          Don’t forget that she also wouldn’t be doing stupid shit like destroying the East wing (literally), slapping her name on the arts center, talking about ballrooms and arches, grifting like a motherfucker (to the tune of 1.4 billion), kidnapping foreign leaders and stealing their assets, casually talking about invading/annexing other countries including allies…and all while the economy is imploding due to tariffs and while people are unemployed through direct actions done by the administration/party and while people having their health care and food security torn away.

          The bOtHsIdeS dumbasses can pound sand.

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        Gonna play dipshit’s advocate here for a minute and say that canceling funding for Scouts based on DEI is pretty low-key evil compared to their perception that Kamala was personally flying planes over to Palestine and dropping nuclear cluster agent-orange munitions on the women and children there.

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        From what I understand, the Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts are completely separate organisations in the US, and also quite different in their outlook, with the Girl Scouts being very inclusive and somewhat progressive, while the Boy Scouts are a bastion of male chauvinism, patriarchal values, intimidation and sexual abuse.

        A couple of years ago, the Boy Scouts tried to change that, and apparently that’s really upsetting to Hegseth.

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          The Boy Scouts made the decision in 2017 to start admitting girls and in 2018 started carrying that out. I think their split with Mormons really hurt membership and this was a way to increase membership.

          As others have said - long before that, it was often the case that siblings and mothers (as leaders) were involved in troop activities anyway.

          And yes, this story has nothing to do with Girl Scouts because as you say, they are an entirely different org.

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      It’s the organization formerly called the “Boy Scouts”. The Girl Scouts is a wholely independent organization that doesn’t, to my knowledge, receive money from the government to operate, hence Girl Scout cookies as a revenue source to fund activities.

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    Does Hegseth know that the scouts aren’t part of the military and they’re a private organization? I’m just wondering because he doesn’t know much, especially when it comes to the military.

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      Does Hegseth know that the scouts aren’t part of the military

      Eagle Scouts get advanced rank after basic/boot. That translates into pay. Kicking girls out of the BSA is basically denying them a valuable head-start.

      Fun Fact: Did you know that being an Eagle Scout is recognized by the United States Military? Upon graduation from Basic Training in the USAF, USMC, US Army, or US Navy, an Eagle Scout is advanced to E-2. Be sure to tell your recruiter that you are an Eagle Scout!

      https://www.hoac-bsa.org/blue-elk/eagle-scout

      https://www.29palms.marines.mil/Articles/Article/499378/eagle-scouts-a-road-to-military-service/

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        OK, and when was the last time scouts were called up to duty? I don’t remember the scouts being out there in Afghanistan. And that’s Eagle Scout, not Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts, or Girl Scouts, and most Eagle Scouts don’t even attend military. So be that as it may, what it is and what it actually is are two different things they want to take funding because they’re afraid of vaginas and the Boy Scouts or scouting in general. Hegseth, like many of his ilk, is afraid of vaginas. They’re also afraid of people, removing their penises and making them vaginas.

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    Bitch, please. They weren’t scared of the Mormons, and they took an even bigger financial hit for breaking up with them. You think they’re gonna be scared of you? In this climate, the instant they announce cutting ties with you, fucking Taylor Swift or Mark Ruffalo will swoop in.

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      Hell, these are the same people that are obsessed with where other people poop.

      Also, Hegseth concerns himself with facial hair, so…

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    The MAGA asswipes would like to transform the Boy Scouts into their version of the Hitler Youth, Young Pioneers and other fucked-up youth groups for brainwashing purposes.

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      The Mormons used it specifically for indoctrinating young men into their own cult for decades. They were BSA’s biggest sponsor for fucking ever, since participating was mandatory for Mormon boys. Breaking ties with the Mormons over gay rights was a big fucking deal. It was a cultural nuke at the time when I was in Utah.

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    Hey Democrats, here’s how to spin it:

    “THEYRE TRYING TO TAKE AWAY YOUR THIN MINTS.”

    It doesn’t need to be accurate. Get on their level.

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      Girl scouts sell thin mints; Scouts (formerly BSA or Boy Scouts of America) doesn’t seem to have a unified strategy for fundraising. Cub scouts does popcorn.

      The cookies will remain regardless of Pedonald and Pete Hegseth’s culture war nonsense - unless they start going after Girl Scouts for allowing trans…

      But to your point, I guess - to the mushbrained types, the details don’t really matter. Most people don’t even know that girls are in Scouts or that BSA changed their name to Scouting America. They also don’t know that Girl Scouts are entirely separate…

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        It’s “Scouts BSA” for what’s formerly “Boy Scouts” and the parent organization (of Scouts BSA, Cubs, etc) is “Scouting America”.

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    Lol I know like a dozen eagle scouts and today 100% of them are gay or trans. Trying to keep the BSA conservative while every uncomfortable father is enrolling their pansy son is a game of entropy that the right cannot win.

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      Lol that’s hilarious actually… Maybe they’re afraid of this being a source of military training for leftists.

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        At least Scouts teach firearm safety, which clearly ICE skipped in their rush to terrorize neighborhoods

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          The way things are going, we might be seeing scout troops on the battlefield against ICE. That would make for a cool movie, but really shouldn’t be a thing. 😕

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            I can picture it, just like Red Dawn, but updated with the new threat to society

            GO, WOLVERINES!

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    I would like to point out that Kegsbreath was not a Scout.

    Also, even if he was, how having girls in the Scouts affects him, personally, is a real mystery.

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      I was in scouts. People brought their sisters to meetings all the time. They joined in whatever we were doing and it was fine. I also went on a couple girl scout trips. I don’t even remember how that happened but we had a fun time. Most of the girls I met as a kid and remained friends with through my teens I met through scouts. Good experiences all around.

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        Good experiences all around.

        Hegseth can’t be having with any of that nonsense!

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      This is the truth. It’s stupid culture war shit all the way down with these guys. Harmful stuff that will do nothing but help a few angry incels jerk off to “owning the libs”, but providing nothing of value to anyone in the country except for billionaires.