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    Wait hold up!

    Was bad bunny trolling with his very much white suit?

    How do you guys interpret the white clothes he was wearing?

    For example, do they represent indigenous people’s clothes since most common clothes back then were white or at least colorless? I have a photo of two of my great great grand parents and they were wearing white long pants or shorts.

    Or is he saying that there’s a brown person inside white people too?

    Or that some of us try to be whiter by our clothing?

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    Anglo-Saxons quite literally erased the locals when they came to America, this is just a musical performance with some of their descendants. 🙄

    I’m telling you, if they had anything more than their physical features as common ground, anything with depth as a shared ideology, and even the most rudimentary of moral frameworks, they wouldn’t be this way.

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      If you listen to her, you’d think Bad Bunny was giving out smallpox blankets to all the white people at the Super Bowl.

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        Ooh, that would work really well nowadays with all the antivaxxers! New idea, pass out blankets at Trump rallies!

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          Not smallpox please, a lot of innocent people aren’t vaccinated against it since it was eradicated. I am because I’m an old fart, but I don’t want MAGA people my age and above being the ones NOT affected. Besides you’d have to break into the CDC, or just convince Kennedy it’d be good for folks’immune systems or something.

          Measles is already working on the problem all by itself.

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      Unfortunately, gotta hard disagree here. The big problem is that this particular in-group does have a shared ideology and moral framework. The problem is that it’s Nazi ideology.

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        I don’t think there’s anything of substance there besides fear, confusion and anger, and none of these things require words or thoughts. I mean, let’s be real, none of these folks have read Mein Kampf… these people don’t read, lol. The one thing I’d say they have in common is that they have defaulted into the bestial “might makes right”/law of the jungle stance, which is not an ideology but the absence of one that contains/redirects your urges.

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          She is Italian, right? Does that qualify as white? Depends who/when you ask.

          Personally I’m all for erasing the white identity. Its a fucking lie. My grandparents and great grandparents etc were Norwegian, Italian, Scottish. They did not consider themselves white.

          If one wants to make an argument about an American melting pot identity, blending these cultures together to something new, you are lying to yourself if you try to exclude the massive influence non-‘white’ cultures had and continue to have on that shared cultural identity.

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      I watched “The Nightmare Before Christmas” once and I swear there wasn’t a real person in there. They want every single one of us to be dead and animated!

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      There was some Richard Pryor joke about some 70s sci-fi movie with only whites in it. Think about what that means…

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      same, but im asian. only white people/magas complain about wokeness. Also they have pet peeve with anything that strays from evangelical christianity subtleties in shows and movies.

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    60 halftime shows, all in English, and it only took a single mostly Spanish halftime show for a quarter of the country to have a meltdown. Never mind that 1/10 of the country speaks Spanish. Textbook example of “When you’re used to privilege, equality feels like oppression.”

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      Yea but she’s Italian so she’s not white, but hey atleast she’s not Irish.

      /s

      It’s so stupid and subjective what’s white anyways. Like buddy comes from Spain and people consider them white but oh noes they come from somewhere south of the US or in the case or PR in the US and suddenly not white. Jokes on them were all descendants of rapist colonizers 😂

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        Like buddy comes from Spain and people consider them white

        Noooo, Spain isn’t considered white to some racists. I’m not sure why that consistently comes up. You’re “white” or “one of the good ones” until you’re not to racists. They’re bullies against others and it’s kind of random. If an ICE guy pulls a person from Spain over and they’re speaking Spanish, they’re going in. Racism is stupid af and can’t be predicted. No one is safe.

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      Americans apparently have a very learned eye to distinguish who’s white or not.

      Had a bizarre interaction in Texas once where I couldn’t tell an entire staff was Mexican? My bad. Hijinx ensued. Owner was on the hook for my meal/drinks.

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        I’m Canadian.

        I was visiting a friend in Texas in 2015. They were out for the day so I was just kinda wandering around in the afternoon.

        Found myself belly up to a bar, chit chatting with the bartenders. Shooting the shit, having a great time. Trump came on the TV and I commented what a knob he was.

        The bartender said something somber, like “Yeah if he wins, we all are gonna have to go home”

        I sincerely didn’t understand why. I was like “What… he’s going to close the bars??” The guy was like “No… we will have to go home”

        Again, I was like “what the fuck are you talking about”

        Buddy looks at me like I’m from outer space. I look at him the same way.

        He just slowly says “We’re… all… Mexican”. The whole body of staff is gravitating towards the unfolding scene.

        “How the hell was I supposed to know that?” I asked. He was like “Isn’t it obvious?”. No? Like they had dark hair. Is everyone with dark hair Mexican?

        He was like “did you walk by any construction sites today?”. Yes, I had. “Think back, did the foreman look different than everyone else?”. Now that is really thought back… yeah. He was like, ginger.

        At this point, like 10 of the staff are watching me come to the realization, in real time, that I’ve been surrounded by Mexicans like the whole day and no part of my brain registered it.

        I don’t even really remember exactly what I said next… but it would have been along the lines of “I’m from Canada. My brain isn’t even wired to distinguish a Mexican from anyone else.” I’m really confused. I’m basically apologizing.

        At that point they just burst out laughing. Basically surrounded at this point. They poured me a shot. Then another. They told me my bill was covered. We kept shooting the shit for a few more hours. They kept teasing me for not being able to recognize a Mexican. A relatively famous band was playing there later that night, and they snuck me back to listen to them warming up.

        To this day, I still don’t really understand how Americans can distinguish Mexicans. It must be a learned “skill”. It was pretty eye opening talking to them… the fatigue of being treated as “lesser”… even “distinct”. We had a good time.

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          That’s kind of where I’m at, I really have no idea if I’ve every seen a mexican person in real life or if they might be a native, also hello from bc

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              You’re not an idiot and that story is hilarious. Thanks for sharing it!

              If it makes you feel any better, not all Latinos are Mexican, and even Mexicans can’t accurately recognize other Mexicans. I’m descended from Sicilians, so I’m seasonally dark and my dad was dark AF*. When we lived in California, we were regularly spoken to in Spanish by Mexicans and other Latinos who were surprised that we didn’t speak Spanish and in fact were the whitest dark people they had ever met.

              *Fun Fact: my paternal grandfather was an asshole and as racist as he was dark (very). Jokes on him - I got my whole genome sequenced and we have a ton of gene variations strongly correlated with African populations. I’m around 25% African by gene frequency distribution, about 10% North and about 15% sub-Saharan African. I’m at least 15% “black”. Hah! Fuck you, Grandpa!

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      It’s context dependent. When performing at the Superbowl it’s brown. When shooting a black man it’s white.

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        Built a country on race based slavery and segregation, bound to have some mentally short circuiting folks even in the 21st century.

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      It’s so arbitrary. I’m “white” and I’m darker than most of the people there by early June. It’d be year round if not for living so far north.

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    Is it bad that whenever I see these types of alarmist posts, I respond with “Happy Great Replacement!”?

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      Yes, that’s why white people are called Caucasian, because they are named after the Norway-Sweden mountains… wait a minute…

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    Is anyone checking that these are real tweets? I mean, I wouldn’t surprise be in the slightest but it feels so fucking over the top that it warrants sourcing. I’m not on Shitter so I can’t, can someone verify this is real?

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      I don’t think that’ll ever happen, really. We’re just gonna have to stop hating/fearing each other based on physical attributes.

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        It won’t. Most people in that picture would be considered white in most places in the world, but whiteness is a concept that expands and contracts to enable racism to persist.

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          Richard Pryor went to Africa once and he would ask people there what tribe it looked like he was from. Most people told him “you look Italian.”