VRC Non-Skip ads are now generally available, allowing brands to reach TV audiences with Google AI.
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VRC Non-Skip ads are now generally available globally in Google Ads and Display & Video 360.
    • Scrollone@feddit.itEnglish
      92·
      20 天前

      It’s all fine and fun until Google prevents people from installing third party APKs in a few months…

      • boonhet@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        3·
        20 天前

        Can they? Because I’ve got a modified YouTube ipa on my iPhone and that’s more closed than Android could ever become in the span of the next few months.

          • boonhet@sopuli.xyzEnglish
            2·
            20 天前

            I don’t remember the exact procedure for this, but here’s the summary. You’ll first want to install sidestore or sidestore + livecontainer. Computer needed for that. You’ll also want a stock YouTube ipa file that you can then mod with YouTube Plus or similar utility.

            You’ll have to update livecontainer (if you installed it) and YouTube every 7 days unless you have a dev license but Sidestore does it with a single button press in-app so it’s not that inconvenient. You can install ipas within sidestore (limited amount at a time) or livecontainer (as many as you want I believe, but it’s more complicated) without connecting to a computer once the initial setup is done

        • hietsu@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          3·
          20 天前

          For us advanced users true, but for the bulk of people where ”just use this app instead” has worked previously, will not do it anymore. Whole lotta more hoops to jump through and google knows many will not be able to.

        • Scrollone@feddit.itEnglish
          1·
          20 天前

          There will be an advanced flow for now, maybe (they didn’t explain how it will work). But our freedom is getting restricted nonetheless

  • pageflight@piefed.socialEnglish
    8·
    20 天前

    I clearly need to up my adblock game. But do y’all also use PeerTube, Nebula, Curiosity Stream? Happy to vote with dollars if there’s a good candidate.

    • RamRabbit@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      20 天前

      Nebula is pretty good and I’m happy to support creators making quality content.

      UBlock Origin on Firefox murders all YouTube ads. Works great. Would recommend.

    • FosterMolasses@leminal.spaceEnglish
      2·
      20 天前

      My issue with those sites is that since they’re not direct mirrors, they don’t have a dedicated archive. And since archive.org has stopped saving youtube videos, that could lead to a lot of lost media. It’s a cultural cornerstone that’s been around for nearly two decades. If I can’t access 15 year old YGOTAS videos then it’s just not a viable replacement to me lol

    • this@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      31·
      20 天前

      I’ve been using grayjay lately and when it needs to play an unskipable add you just get a nice looking blank screen to look at instead.

  • solidsmoke@lemmy.worldEnglish
    631·
    20 天前

    If they just made the ads unintrusive people wouldn’t bother installing adblockers. But sure make the ads longer and see what happens.

    • FosterMolasses@leminal.spaceEnglish
      6·
      20 天前

      Exactly, people used to love ads. They would sit down and watch hour long compilation videos of the funniest and weirdest ones. People would get hyped for shit like Old Spice and Skittles and never skip it. Even the Superbowl was less entertaining than the ads it had and that was a mainstream opinion.

      It’s the exact same as the boomers who keep crowing “Why doesn’t anyone wanna work?!” but now it’s “Why doesn’t anyone want ads?!” lmao

    • Pamasich@kbin.earth
      1·
      20 天前

      Most people still would.

      I personally wouldn’t, that’s why I use Adblock Plus. But there’s a reason everyone started hating on ABP when it started allowing non-intrusive ads by default. Most people do not want to see ads at all, no matter what.

    • just2look@lemmy.zipEnglish
      301·
      20 天前

      Also changed how ads are served so they wouldn’t be a known security issue. Intrusive or not I will block all of them until security improves.

      • stoy@lemmy.zipEnglish
        27·
        20 天前

        I have said it before, and I’ll say it again.

        As an IT guy I consider an adblocker an essential part of my computer security suite.

        I will not reconsider until there are laws in place forcing website owners to take legal and financial responsibility for any damage sustained to my computer when visiting their site, and loading their ads.

        IF the laws are changed like that, I would reconsider getting rid of my adblocker, ai still wouldn’t but I would reconsider the issue.

    • Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      1·
      20 天前

      Back in the day it was just some stuff, like “bosch screwdrivers, 29.90” or something, now it’s attention grabbing hyper annoying crap, who can even live with that?

      • FosterMolasses@leminal.spaceEnglish
        3·
        20 天前

        Nah, take a look at the stats of the number of people who tried out an adblocker for the first time when Youtube attempted to ban them several months back. Streisand Effect in action.

  • Lemminary@lemmy.worldEnglish
    33·
    20 天前

    Time to double down on the adblocks, then. I get it conceptually, but I still don’t understand this need for infinite growth at everyone’s expense.

    • Soup@lemmy.worldEnglish
      12·
      20 天前

      Right? If I don’t otherwise pay for the service then sure, some ads are fine. Problem is that at this point I’m seeing ads every few minutes, and if the video restarts in a weird spot and reloads funny after I reopen my laptop I might even get the same ads looping after literally two seconds of video.

      Also, I was paying for the service and then they gave a fuckload of support to Israel to spread propaganda so I stopped.

  • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.todayEnglish
    13·
    20 天前

    We’ve got a business model that didn’t even exist 25 years ago, and we’re making insane money!

    How can we fuck it up?

    • SuspciousCarrot78@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      19 天前

      I dunno. Some strange relic from the 1980s?

      Kidding aside, it’s shocking how bad raw YT is. We watch it via Smartube (or PipePipe as needed). I can’t believe people watch “raw” youtube…it’s unwatchable.

      If they ever quash SmartTube and PipePipe…well…I imagine Peertube, Nebula, Libby and Curiosity stream will suddenly become a great deal more popular.

      I don’t think the powers that be fully grasp the (very delicate) knife edge they walk. They only stay in business so long as they aren’t annoying enough to be replaced. Actually, who am I kidding - they know that exactly and play the delicate “gently gently” boil frogs in a pot game like grandmasters.

      • SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        3·
        18 天前

        The ads seem to be pretty variable depending on usage so I suspect not everyone is seeing the same thing. I rarely use YouTube in any form. When I do and I’m rawdogging it for whatever reason, it seems like I get a few short ads, like 30s or less. They’re annoying but not awful.

        A friend keeps YouTube running constantly on his TV in the background while he works. He gets so many ads and they’re so long! Like several minutes of ads, mostly unskippable, over the course of a 15 minute video. I don’t know how people deal with that shit.

      • djdarren@piefed.socialEnglish
        7·
        20 天前

        I have a script that takes a YT URL on my clipboard and uses yt-dlp to download it to my Jellyfin folder so I can watch on my Apple TV on The Big Telly.

        Fuck adverts.

      • Quicky@piefed.socialEnglish
        3·
        20 天前

        I use an Apple TV, but I assume it’s the same as any other streaming box or appropriate smart TV.

        The absolute piece-of-piss way to block all YouTube ads on it is to install a VPN like Proton, choose a relevant country (easily googleable), and there will be no ads whatsoever in YouTube.

        Google doesn’t serve ads on YouTube in a handful of countries.

      • Null User Object@lemmy.worldEnglish
        381·
        20 天前

        I’m not the person you’re responding to, but I’m running SmartTube on an Nvidia Shield here. Works amazing.

          • Dudewitbow@lemmy.zipEnglish
            5·
            20 天前

            its still very capable, but best depends. iirc there are certain audio formats the shield doesnt support.

            i personally would love a new shield using ~switch 2 soc just so i can move emulation/lower end pc onto it.

              • Dudewitbow@lemmy.zipEnglish
                4·
                20 天前

                I went to go look it up for my old setup, turns out its mainly for the older models, as the codecs are only supported on the newer revisions of the shield tv.

                though with the shield tv, one of the missing things that would be nice to have would be AV1 support (as Nvidia only supported AV1 starting with Ampere based gpus)

      • Cyv_@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        232·
        20 天前

        I mean there are ways, like pihole, but I like the simple option of a really long hdmi cable that I use to plug my computer into the TV, so I never have to use any of the shitty built in TV apps.

        Edit: not pihole, apparently.

        • dkppunk@piefed.socialEnglish
          14·
          20 天前

          I would love to run a long hdmi cable from my pc to my tv, but I have rabbits and they like the spicy hay

            • dkppunk@piefed.socialEnglish
              1·
              20 天前

              Conduit is probably the best option, I just haven’t done anything with it yet. And I might have to convince partner to cut some holes in the wall to make that work. I’ll eventually figure it out.

          • Cyv_@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            5·
            20 天前

            Oh no, I feel that, we had an orange kitty who adored his electric spaghetti! We had to run cables through that tube conduit stuff everywhere >.<

            • dkppunk@piefed.socialEnglish
              3·
              20 天前

              Oh the orange ones are the most fun. I had a couple oranges as a kid and they were so sweet and so dumb. I loved them lol

          • W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            2·
            20 天前

            So I was watching Forrest Gump and he’s running through the jungles of Viet Nam. All of a sudden he stops running. And I know that’s not right because he hasn’t rescued “him” yet.

            Turns out my jerk face rabbit chewed through the Ethernet cable.

            Rabbits do love that spicy hay.

          • guy@piefed.socialEnglish
            1·
            20 天前

            What, it works for me? Put on an 8 hour video while doing chores and had ads every 5 minutes. Filled with rage I installed pihole and no more ads.

            • Decq@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              19 天前

              I’m curious how. Maybe a different region? I don’t have Pihole anymore but it didn’t use to do anything for me for YouTube. Luckily we have uBlock.

              • guy@piefed.socialEnglish
                1·
                16 天前

                Maybe? My region is Sweden. I really haven’t had any ads on YouTube since installing pihole. “Works on my machine”

          • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            10·
            20 天前

            You’re correct. Pihole works at the DNS level. Since YouTube hosts their ads on the same servers that host their videos, blocking the ads with DNS would also block the videos. Which I guess it technically works to block YT ads, but that’s a little like saying “set a man on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life.”

          • Cyv_@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            2·
            20 天前

            Honestly, I’ve not used it, I just know of it. From a quick search it looks like you’re right tho, you’d probably need to use an external device like an android box or something.

      • Mac@mander.xyzEnglish
        14·
        20 天前

        I have this thing called a DisplayPort cable. So yes, uBlock origin on my TV.

        Edit: I’m realizing this might be coming across really shitty, but i promise I’m just intending some tongue-in-cheek dry joking.

    • Beep@lemmus.orgOPEnglish
      1514·
      20 天前

      Actually, YouTube is cracking down on adblockers.

      So while you might not feel the pain now, you will eventually.

  • AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    49·
    20 天前

    My smart tube app wasn’t working tonight so watched YouTube on the normal app. I can’t believe people live like this, it’s actually unwatchable.

    • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      41·
      20 天前

      If you run Fcast receiver on your android TV device, you can cast to it from Grayjay without ads.

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        19 天前

        There’s an abundance of work arounds, for certain. I’ve been using NewPipe for a year or two now.

        Mostly just annoying to go through this ritual of jury rigging every new device to use basic Internet services.

    • Imaginary_Stand4909@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      1·
      18 天前

      Okay how good is Smart Tube for ypu? I downloaded it to my family Fire TV but my mom just refuses to use it, so we watch long, loud, unbearable ads all the time. I get that there’s no algorithm to find videos, but can you import subscriptions? My mom has noticed YT never shows her a few of her subscribed channels in her recommended anymore.

      • AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        1·
        17 天前

        It’s great. I’m pretty sure you can sign in so you get your algorithm and subscriptions. But it’s an incredible app. Infinitely better than the normal YouTube app.

    • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.todayEnglish
      7·
      20 天前

      Seriously bro! I got revanced on my phone and smart tube next on the tv. I legit had to think about the last time I used the official app and it was nothing but angry memories. Waking up in the middle of a, and I’m not making this up, hour plus long ad! Always auto playing some ai slop bullshit about some murder or something slightly cosmological.

      I was jarred by an ad playing during LOTR on HBO just now.

    • nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      3·
      19 天前

      yeah. I will go to look something up that I need or want to watch, but I’m often bailing halfway through that advertisement. it’s not even worth my time

  • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    20 天前

    I’ll check out Nebula if YouTube gets to the point where I can’t avoid ads. But, till then, I won’t pay for what I can get free, simple as. If it comes to it, and most of the producers are there that I want to see, I will pay, whereas I won’t knowingly give Google one cent. I expect, though, if Nebula gets popular enough, they too will start with ads.