Summary:

I downvoted pro-AI comments in a post in leftymemes community. It was LLM generated polandball comic (Which is objectively pathetic as fuck) that showed up on my feed, blocked couple of users who I thought were unhinged, and have blocked the whole instance on my client after realizing how rabid these morons are.

I didn’t go looking for AI posts like a vigilante.

One user in question got miffed for being downvoted and banned me from places they moderate.

  • e8d79@discuss.tchncs.deM
    121·
    7 months ago

    I noticed this a while ago but just found it funny and moved on. I think they rage ban anyone who posts here. The reason why someone who apparently is very pro-AI would visits an Anti-AI community just to be angry eludes me.

  • cally [he/they]@pawb.socialEnglish
    292·
    7 months ago

    LLM generated polandball comic

    WHY

    i literally just made one in like 5 minutes, and i didn’t even need a good or interesting idea. i put in the minimum amount of effort. they are literally balls with no mouth, nose or any other detail, just a circle, a flag and two eyes

    A polandball comic. First panel has the USA ball saying "'murica, heck yeah!" while wearing sunglasses. In the second panel, Mexico ball has no reaction and looks annoyed, while Canada ball says "why are you like this? eh". The way USA ball is colored is visibly worse and low effort in the second panel.

      • Sturgist@lemmy.ca
        5·
        7 months ago

        Thing is, as someone who has fooled around with locally hosted image gen, it’s actually sometimes a whole fucking lot of work to try and bend prompts to get the stupid algorithm to spit out what you want. They’d rather put in a shit tonne of effort for an objectively worse result.

        • Nangijala@feddit.dk
          3·
          7 months ago

          That is also my thought. If you want to make AI generated content, which is going to cost the environment a ton (40 phone charges per prompt, people) and do prompt after prompt after prompt - then WHY would you waste all that time and pollution on a fucking gag comic that you could draw yourself in five minutes?

          To me, that is peak retardation when it comes to AI fanboys. At least use that time and pollution on something worthwhile.

  • BroBot9000@lemmy.worldEnglish
    542·
    7 months ago

    Yeah the mental gymnastics of some of these ai moderators is hitting Reddit level of cringe. Downvoted and blocked some ai slop communities that came across my timeline and had one butthurt genius block me from a few places they mod.

    Ai bros are just the worst insecure shitheads out there. Absolutely worse than crypto bros ever were.

    • stoly@lemmy.world
      82·
      7 months ago

      LOL before you mentioned Crypto I was going to say that they are just like CryptoBros. Do you think that AIBros are worse?

      • BroBot9000@lemmy.worldEnglish
        173·
        7 months ago

        They are absolutely worse. Ai bros have this huge self righteous ego “it’s just a tool” while dismissing all the environmental damages, loss of human made creativity and it funneling money away from creators and into greedy CEOs pockets.

        At least the crypto bros stay in the financial sector, Ai shitheads are out claiming it’s the “next ai revolution” on every damn topic.

        Even worse are the Ai apologists saying it’s a capitalism problem not an Ai issue. Yeah like you aren’t using the tools of capitalism to give them more power you idiots. You are actively making it worse. You aren’t some resistance fighter stealing the means of production. You are just a cog in their machine.

  • Unsung Rooster@sh.itjust.works
    105·
    7 months ago

    I crossposted this thread to !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com, and here was db0’s response

    Not surprising whatsoever. Someone should really make an alternative to that community that isn’t on dbzer0. YPTB is biased as fuck and they’re not above accusing people like us of sowing drama just because they don’t like criticism of their slop.

  • Cocopanda@lemmy.world
    56·
    7 months ago

    Lemmy is just as messed up as Reddit. Had my first acct nuked because I argued that Jewish people were supporting a genocide. Not all. But a majority. And boom the Zionists silenced my voice because I’m not cool with genocide.

    Honestly. Wtf Lemmy.

      • Finch9678@europe.pub
        224·
        7 months ago

        Yes, but also quite anarchist(at least from what I have seen) and this is more abuse of power in my opinion.

          • Unsung Rooster@sh.itjust.works
            6·
            7 months ago

            Yup as evidence by db0’s behavior when I crossposted this thread there, first thing he did was to accuse me of sowing drama, then act condescending as fuck. And they have the audacity to call us neolibs?

            Edit: Fascist pigs banned me from their pro-AI mod abuse community, good riddance.

        • Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          41·
          7 months ago

          I agree. This is less an AI problem and more of a singular abuse of power from an individual of the instance inside their moderated communities. I wouldn’t tack it on to the whole instance itself. Plenty are here for pro-anarchy or, like myself, just pro-piracy (in the case of giant corporate powerhouses charging disgusting prices for games and “ad-less” tier streaming services). I wouldn’t necessarily call myself an anarchist, though I do align with some of it’s views, but I wouldn’t call myself anything else, either. I pretty much just don’t enjoy politics.

          This is a clear case of mod harassment, rather than instance harassment. But if the only thing they can do is ban OP from instances they don’t even want to see… well, they didn’t accomplish much. So much so, that this could get legitimately posted in “Saved You a Click”. However, its good to put antics like these in the spotlight. Some people need to be power checked.

  • Unsung Rooster@sh.itjust.works
    107·
    7 months ago

    Lol it just keeps on getting better, dbzer0’s admins apparently think that banning anyone who downvotes in your community to create an echochamber is somehow a good thing

  • ZDL@lazysoci.al
    157·
    7 months ago

    I keep seeing dbzer0.com paired with some unhinged opinions. Is it a good site to block in general, or should I continue my current trajectory of just blocking the names I see making these opinions public?

    • Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      31·
      7 months ago

      All instances are a group of individuals. If you’re looking for a community without any assholes at all, let alone instance, you’re in for a very unhappy surprise.

      I’m reminded of an old small-community MMO I used to play where one player literally blocked anyone who said anything they didn’t align with. It wound up with them pretty much asking questions in world chat and wondering why no one would answer, even though they got like 4 answers.

      So if you’re out to block every instance that has people in it with unhinged views, your lemmy is going to be very quiet someday. That might be how you want it, so I’m not saying don’t do it. You do you. I’m just saying that you can’t find gold without digging through dirt. Blocking a whole instance based on individual comments/posts that you’ve seen just seems a bit extreme to me.

      • ZDL@lazysoci.al
        3·
        7 months ago

        Oh, I’m aware that “no assholes” is an impossible dream. But if I start seeing assholes and idiots increasingly attached to specific instances, it’s incentive to perhaps just drop that instance. Different instances have different moderation policies and different target communities. For example “hilariouschaos” is an instance for people who’ve never left that 13-year old sniggering stage where “bewbs” is a word with intrinsic hilarity. So I can axe them comfortably.

        • Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          2·
          7 months ago

          I mean, fair. I don’t think we’re all horrible here on dbz, though. Whereas I’ve never blocked an instance, I do like that the option is there.

          I still think a lot of us here are just pirates who enjoy self-hosting. And some of us are simply ADHD and autism comrades, as dbz is understanding and inclusive about us.

          Plus, I have instance hopped, too. I had lost my .world 2fa, so I moved without researching and found myself in the middle of a war that I was not happy being in. So I do get it.

        • Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          1·
          7 months ago

          Some of it is, yeah. I think a lot of it is pro-technology. I’m a little iffy on AI myself. I want to be an author, and I feel that these days I’d be accused of using AI to write.

          Hell, I enjoy using semi-colons, but have had to stop because people think that any semi-colon in a post or comment is AI generated.

          Hope I caught you before you hit that block button. I wish you the best of luck and for what its worth, I’m sorry this happened.

            • Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              1·
              7 months ago

              Oh. I was under the impression that blocking an instance would block all users of that instance as well… I’ve never blocked an instance before, so I’m not sure how any of this works. My mistake, lol. 😅

    • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
      30·
      7 months ago

      dbzer0.com is a good instance for things like piracy, privacy and other “non-standard” uses of technology. It is very anarchist.

      • ZDL@lazysoci.al
        175·
        7 months ago

        So many people use “anarchism” in their identity that I just don’t trust it. I mean there’s anarcho-capitalists for starters… If there’s a strong culture of pro-AI there, thought, that may be enough on its own to just get rid of them.

        • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
          262·
          7 months ago

          In my opinion dbzer0 is an important instance in the fediverse, along with blajah, shit.just.works, and even hexbear (which I blocked). These are instances that cater to communities that have no place in corporate social media. Thankfully, we have options to block users, communities or entire instances. If you find AI offensive (I find it useless and wasteful), you should absolutely block those communities, but dbzer0 is not an pro-AI instance as a whole and I think you would be missing out on very useful content. IMHO

          • ZDL@lazysoci.al
            14·
            7 months ago

            When I see hot takes that range from “WTF!?” to actual batshit insanity, I always look at the source. lemmy.world, shit.just.works, and a few others (including dbzer0) seem to always be the host.

            Increasingly I’m wondering if it might not be best to just shove these into the “block site” box. The trigger finger hasn’t yet itched enough for it, but it’s getting closer.

          • James R Kirk@startrek.websiteEnglish
            4·
            7 months ago

            I started off strongly disagreeing but you make a good point. I think I would honestly be “happy” to see something like /r/conservative move to a decentralized platform (though that might be a bad example because it’s purpose is more of a propoganda-spreader than a true “community”).

            • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
              4·
              7 months ago

              The consolation of social media into giant “cath all” dumpster fires forces everyone to engage, or at least be exposed to, shit like nazis.

              • James R Kirk@startrek.websiteEnglish
                2·
                7 months ago

                Right exactly. A “community” like /r/conservative can’t really exist on the Fediverse in the same way because it’s current function depends on outsiders to engage with.

                • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
                  4·
                  7 months ago

                  I miss the days when white supremacists were relegated to shitty forums like stormfront.

          • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
            32·
            7 months ago

            but dbzer0 is not an pro-AI instance as a whole

            It absolutely is, explicitly so. Go ask Unruffled if .dbzer0 is a pro-AI instance as a whole or not.

            The rule there is that AI images are allowed, untagged, in every comm, and being anti-AI is against the rules of every comm.

              • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
                23·
                7 months ago

                Inconsistent enforcement. The mods consider it within their rights to remove content purely on the basis that it’s critical of AI. Giving some of it a pass (for now) doesn’t change that.

          • Genius@lemmy.zip
            55·
            7 months ago

            Unruffled, the second in command admin, has also pulled this bullshit of banning people for criticising AI. It’s absolutely a pro-AI instance.

        • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          21·
          7 months ago

          Definitely not ayn-cap.

          I don’t think there’s a strong “AI” scene there. They just have a sub for generated art.

  • CodexArcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    922·
    7 months ago

    I guess in your drive-by downvoting you didn’t notice the huge argument happening in that thread, specifically from people dogpiling the creator for crossposting from the !imageai@sh.itjust.works to !leftymemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com? So it wasnt even originally from our board!

    https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/46162538

    I can’t even see the post anymore, OP might have been bullied into deleting it.

    I saw it before and didn’t even care for it myself! i hate Poland ball comics, absolute garbage. But the dbzer0 mods have a point. You can’t even mildly critique something like that without the AI haters rolling in to be disruptive. You’ve made this big stink like you were singled out but there’s several loud people in there derailing conversations to complain about AI. In other words, you were brigading.

    • squaresinger@lemmy.world
      22·
      7 months ago

      Please help me get this straight so that I don’t misunderstand you.

      Are you saying that you agree that people should be banned for downvoting content? So, without commenting or arguing or anything, just downvoting something you don’t like can get you banned?

      Why then don’t you just disable the downvoting function for the instance?

      • CodexArcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        5·
        7 months ago

        Having considered things for a day, I would say that I think @MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com probably was overzealous banning the OP from all those comms over downvotes. That’s assuming all they did was down vote some comments in that post.

        If they were serially downvoting a bunch is posts in those comms then that’s that.

        But I don’t otherwise find the anti-anti-ai rules on dbzer0 to be onerous. I criticize AI fairly often, I just don’t do it in the pro-ai comms. Leftymemes is funny territory since it isnt explicitly a pro-ai comm, even if the instance overall is. I do think all comma should post all their rules in sidebar. It isn’t enough to assume Instance rules are also included, since those aren’t immediately visible to a federated user checking the sidebar.

        • go $fsck yourself@lemmy.worldEnglish
          32·
          7 months ago

          There is no instance rule against criticism of AI on db0. Being “pro AI” is not a blank cheque for authoritarian behavior against anyone who isn’t sucking genAI’s malformed cock.

          This happens frequently all over db0, and not including explicitly AI communities. What is happening is that the people that run AI communities have to deal with anti-AI people in the explicitly AI communities, but then the instance in general uses that as a cover to overreact and act like assholes in other communities that are not explicitly AI.

          What needs to happen is that they just need to stop being little shits and just make an instance rule and ensure each community includes it in the rules. Instead of having secret rules, they just need to make it explicit and then people can know what to expect.

        • squaresinger@lemmy.world
          32·
          7 months ago

          Yeah, of course I don’t know what OP was really doing there, I’m just going off what they claim to have done.

          I haven’t been around leftymemes, but to me, it would not have been obvious that a leftymemes community is pro centralized turbocapitalist AI. But I guess each to their own. It’s just a very random pairing.

          And I really wish communities would put down their rules like law and only execute rules that are actually written.

      • Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        52·
        7 months ago

        It’s really fucking annoying too, because their userbase is generally pretty based on literally any other issue, but they just pick the stupidest hill to die on with the internet-killing machine.

  • geekwithsoul@lemm.eeEnglish
    242·
    7 months ago

    Ha! Was curious and just checked - they recently banned me from the same communities. I certainly don’t go looking for AI stuff to downvote but probably have done so a couple times if I see it in /all and it’s egregiously bad. Guess that was too much for them.

    Imagine being so incredibly fragile that you ban folks because they downvoted a post on a site where karma doesn’t exist and you had an AI create the content you posted.

    I think as more people get sick of AI bullshit, the cheerleaders are seeing the reaction and thinking it’s some dark conspiracy when it’s just folks saying “Hmm, that’s kinda crappy, isn’t?”

    • PriorityMotif@lemmy.world
      49·
      7 months ago

      You downvoted me for posting a bash script, I guess I know why now. Vote count does matter a little bit because you’re pushing someone’s post down so others can’t see it. Kind of a bummer when I’m just trying to grow a small community and share with people.

      • geekwithsoul@lemm.eeEnglish
        42·
        7 months ago

        Just a suggestion - don’t say you “created” something when you then go on to say you had AI do it for you.

        • PriorityMotif@lemmy.world
          45·
          7 months ago

          Except that I wrote most of it first and had to fix problems myself because it was buggy as hell. It really only gave me the jq urI part.

        • PriorityMotif@lemmy.world
          65·
          7 months ago

          I’m constantly getting down votes because of the community topic. I’m making sure that it’s not someone habitually downvoting. If it were then I would refer it to the admins. People think flipping = scalping so ancaps and others kneejerk downvote. I fixed some broken consoles this weekend and now I’m going to re-sell them, but they don’t understand that. Just like someone downvoted me for using an llm as a search engine to learn how to so something new.

          • Lightor@lemmy.world
            73·
            7 months ago

            So you keep track of everyone who votes you, then if you decide they’ve down voted you too much you report them? Instead of accepting they disagree with you often?

            I think using an LLM to actually learn anything technical is a bad idea too. I implement and maintain AI systems for our company, I understand the wild amount of confident hallucinations it can have. I would down vote that too.

            You seem way too fragile to be online honestly. I don’t mean that as an insult, really. But if you get that upset by down votes that you track who down votes you and report them, then the real world will be tough. You can’t let that stuff get to you man, especially from nameless, faceless strangers.