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I didn’t vote For this at all, but I did know when I voted that this was still the most likely outcome, regardless of whether my candidate won or not. When you are forced to pick between Hitler and Vichy France, you know you are going to lose whoever wins, it’s only a matter of time.
Of the things listed in this post, I don’t think Harris would have pursued any of those. There are other negative outcomes that may have been the same, but I don’t think any of those.
Harris wouldn’t have, no, but she would’ve left the door open for Republicans to do it anyway 4 years from now. There is a reason Democrats never stop Republicans, and never try to ensure they can’t take away our rights.
Remember when Trump wiped women and people of color from DoD and other government documents in his DEI sweep? Fucking sucks man.
It’s not just Trump. It’s the state that he operates just like his predecessor and current collaborators in both “parties”.
It’s a big mistake to assume this is some kind of break rather than a smooth continuation.
Biden did not use deportation as a weapon against legal permanent residents, green card holders, infants, and political opponents.
I think you know what you’re doing. You’re all over this thread. I just realized that all of the bullshit here is you.
Technocrit is all over every political thread, doing his best to spread apathy with the progressive voters, helping to keep the fascists in power.
He’s been slinging this same tired BS since the election, back when the Russian ops trying to get Trump elected would give him upvotes and keep him out of the red.
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Are you incapable of grasping nuance, or do you just refuse?
I’m sure that’s of great comfort to the people in concentration camps. Legit so gross to acknowledge concentration camps currently existing and being run by your own government, and somehow still making it about you.
What can the average US citizen do about concentration camps that are outside the US but controlled by the US?
Did you phrase it this way to avoid talking about the ones in the US?
At bare minimum they could not turn the existence of these camps into the opportunity to talk about how morally pure they are. Useless and obnoxious at best, callous and heartless at worst.
Forgot about the new ones popping up, so I will lump them in as well: what concrete actions can US citizens take in regards to the concentration camps being set up by their government? A government that has the largest amount of military spending on the planet, and has now started deploying that military against it’s own citizens.
You always have options.
Why are you asking me what to do when my criticism of the sentiment in the OP is that it’s self centered and cruel?
If you need to be led around by the nose, probably literally anything else is going to be better than publicly jacking yourself off about how you didn’t want this to happen. I’m sure you can think of something other than self congratulatory meme posting.
I’m asking as you’re the one complaining. Don’t bring me a dead cat without bringing me a shovel.
Drones… Certain funds from the construction market… (Although, I don’t know if they stock other stores in your area.) , start hunting terrorists, Badaboom
Taking some of the millions and millions weapons in US…
But has to be done some time ago. Now ist over.
Edit: But you should definitely arm yourself and be prepared.
The Purge Real Life. Anytime between 2025-2028 in your local country. Get ready.
2A exists for a reason
I’m doubtful that an armed US populace will be effective against the militarized police forces and literal military being deployed against Citizens.
The second amendment was more realistic when society had roughly the same fire power as the military, but not so much any more.
They have predator drones, we have AR-15’s. These are not the same.
The number of Americans who showed up to protest in the streets on No King’s Day was at least 1 million more than the sum total of US military and police members.
Did they have predator drones in Afghanistan?
so why even try to resist right? Lets just say we are sad about it
I find this sentiment very funny, considering the United States terrible performance in asymmetrical warfare.
I don’t think we won a war against an insurgency on their own soil in…… ever?
And that’s with the benefits of untouchable supply lines, and war production, unparalleled intelligence apparatus, and the ability to print money.
Exactly. Proving you ultimately can’t control an armed populace who are willing to take up arms against you.
This all falls apart when most of the country is mass surveilled and production is automated. If only 10% of the workforce are required, it’s easier to control the 10% you need by killing the other 90%, ever shrinking the population of proles until only the < 1% remain.
That’s why fascism, billionaires, and all oligarchs must be eliminated before general AI and mass automation are realized, otherwise the 99% face genocide.
You nailed it, also why the next step for Silicon Valley is military robotics
Start with small groups of ICE agents?
Weapons manufacturing facilities?
Infrastructure? Hacktivism?
Economic targets?
Rich mansions?Anything’s better than shoulder-shrugging after decades of molon labe.
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So you voted Green.
No, they said they didn’t help Trump get elected.
Yes you did. You just convinced yourself that your team was powerless when they didn’t do anything to stop it.
Lol what should Harris have done to stop this? Please be specific.
With the benefit of hindsight? Raise hell, break away from Biden, and acknowledge that our economy is not fine.
Jesus, so many things.
- Stop simply handing out subpoenas and arrest Trumpers for ignoring them, and then go on every news show and hammer the message that Republicans are not above the law.
- Go after Joe Manchin’s daughter for being part of the leadership of a company that price gouges people for prescription drugs until he starts voting the way the party wants him to.
- Remove all of Kirsten Sinema’s committee seats so she can’t personally profit off of lobbyist cash, until she starts voting the way the party wants her to.
- Refuse to support genocide. Revoke aid to Israel.
- Have the president hold a press conference, every single day, Donald-style, where all he talks about are the things we can’t have because of the Republican-controlled Senate and hammer home the message that obstruction is the reason why food is becoming cost-prohibitive.
- Revoke any federal contracts to gun manufacturers that sell AR-15’s to public vendors, and make it very publicly clear that he will do everything he can to bankrupt gun manufacturers who do.
- Pressure RBG endlessly to retire while Obama has control of Congress.
And that’s just off the top of my head.
It’s astonishing that you’ve sat through six months of this presidency and you’re still able to gaslight yourself into believing that Dems had no power when they had the presidency and Congress. They just didn’t give enough of a shit to fight but the hardline fascists do.
Christ, Biden’s presidency did nothing meaningful except make people poorer and angrier, and made himself out to be an egotistical, demented buffoon.
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And the worst part?
They probably sleep sounder than you.
By not voting you did vote.
First past the post system and all of that.
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.
a qoute from a ds9 episode, during one of the dominion episodes, something along the lines “as not doing anything is as bad as supporting the occupation”- vedek
Thank you, now Rush is going to be stuck in my head.
(No seriously, thank you. Prior to this, my head was stuck with nursery rhymes.)
I read it as they voted blue.
Considering how many enlightened geniuses said that they just couldn’t vote for Harris over Gaza… I don’t actually think that’s a safe assumption.
You don’t have to be a genius to oppose genocide, just a decent person.
Absolutely.
Unfortunately, as a result of Trump’s win, expressing that specific opinion can get you deported.
Enlightened Geniuses:
And did helping Trump win helped, right? He definitely put a stop to the Israeli aggression.
Not voting Harris was voting to strip trans rights, destroy jobs with tarrifs, entrench fascist federal judges for a generation, major intensification in climate change ,help the genocide in Ukraine, greatly help the genocide in Gaza.
I put the blame squarely on the non voter.
Edit: vote Harris in THEN protest for better changes.
michiganers protest voted against her, i think thats the place that had the most effect on her votes, everywhere else is less affected by foreign policy issues.
michagan is important because it has large muslim population, but not all muslims like palestinians, its another history behind that too.
alot of conservatives do that, yes many dont vote at all because they cant be bothered, those are the low info voters. there are al group that will not vote for any reason simply because of jury duty summons. some people cant afford 1 day or a few weeks off, and JD doesnt compensate for your loss income, its “pathetically just giving change to homeless people”, and employers arnt legally required to do so other either, because its on the courts to pay.
concentration camps and millions being stripped of health insurance and food assistance
So like Gaza?
Because I’m pretty sure this was the logic for people who refused to vote that this very community spent an entire year assuring me was a bunch of tankie bots from ml.
The majority of people who didn’t vote for Harris don’t care about Gaza. They’re just larping on the internet.
She wasn’t a zionist and wanted to end the war. It was a clear cut decision, but it was a brown and black sacrifice people were willing to make for their moral purity.
So if you voted for Trump for his economic polices or yada yada you didn’t also vote for the camps? Harris was a continuation of Biden, lip serivice to peace and unprecidented support to the genocide. Any vote on the ballot was a vote for genocide, if you voted, you voted for it.
I was ready to demand my Lefty comrades go vote for Kamala: after all, one Genocide is better than two genocides.
But then she came out “tough on the border” and took that from me. She promised to be every bit as hard as Trump.
https://theweek.com/politics/kamala-harris-immigration-policy-mexico-border
But she worked HARD to alienate the Left. She took every piece of rhetoric I had and shat on it.
So we have Kamala caving on Gaza with rhetoric (and walking it back)
But flatly refusing to do anything:
Just like the Liberal Party. Promise almost nothing, make a symbolic gesture, do actually nothing.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/harris-gaza
So when she gets no support, why are Clinton Neoliberal, Reaganomics-poisoned-but-polite Liberals surprised? This is the Country they designed, on purpose.
She wasn’t a zionist and wanted to end the war
Citation? Because any time I saw anything indicating that, she IMMEDIATELY walked it back. And I’ve cited (shitty) sources.
I dug through my comment history to find this. It has plenty of links.
I read it. Democrats will keep playing the left for fools and moving to the right, no matter what happens.
No Bernie’s campaign and Warren’s campaign drove Biden to the left on a whole host of issues, including labor unions.
There was no daylight between her and Biden on Netanyahu’s genocide.
Don’t lie.
This comment said it best and lists calls for a ceasefire from Harris.
https://lemmy.world/comment/13069715
She’s taken a stance, multiple times. The left doesn’t want to hear it.
March - https://www.npr.org/2024/03/04/1234822836/kamala-harris-benny-gantz-gaza-cease-fire-israel-hamas
July - https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/25/harris-netanyahu-israel-cease-fire-00171315
Harris promised to do everything in her power to end the war in Gaza.
“This year has been difficult, given the scale of death and destruction in Gaza and given the civilian casualties and displacement in Lebanon, it is devastating. And as president, I will do everything in my power to end the war in Gaza, to bring home the hostages, end the suffering in Gaza, ensure Israel is secure, and ensure the Palestinian people can realise their right to dignity, freedom, security and self-determination,” Harris said to applause during a rally in East Lansing city of Michigan, home to 200,000 Arab Americans.
Unlike Biden, Harris was not a life long Zionist.
When Joe Biden met with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his war cabinet during his visit to Israel, the U.S. president assured them: “I don’t believe you have to be a Jew to be a Zionist, and I am a Zionist.”
Harris wasn’t perfect. And that was simply not good enough for some people who didn’t want to risk their hands getting dirty. Even if it meant the Palestinians becoming the cost of doing business.
I voted for Harris and the election is over. That doesn’t mean I’m going to pretend that she wasn’t as committed to Netanyahu’s genocide as Biden was.
Good for you. I appreciate it. No need to spread propaganda though.
There was no daylight between her and Biden on Netanyahu’s genocide.
Don’t lie.
You may have missed the “No daylight, kid.” thing it seems.
What does that have to with anything? Harris was never under any obligation to follow that instruction once she became president.
Which would mean accepting a lie, thereby completely undermining calls for context or saying statements are being misquoted.
They are being misquoted. That was a Biden quote used to say that Harris had the same position Biden. Which is a lie.
Harris had distinct positions on Israel. Biden telling her to have the same positions doesn’t mean she had the same positions.
Saying that Israel has a right to exist is Zionist.
The context matters. That doesn’t mean it has the right to exist as an apartheid state. She wants a two state solution. Which should be the goal.
No amount of misquoting is getting anyone out of the fact she was the correct choice in 2024.
Why should that be the goal? Why does stolen land get to remain stolen just because a couple of generations have passed?
Because a couple of generations have passed. It’s wrong to displace the Palestinians. It’s wrong to displace the Israelis. It’s wrong to displace people. There is no more correct place for people to be living then where they are right now.
Israel must return to the 1967 borders.
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Thank you for the well reasoned response.
Here is my Issue:
When the Harris campaign did nothing to add teeth to the promise of a ceasefire (such as cutting off the weapons for the genocide would have done)? It comes off as just another empty gesture.
“Ben, stop the fighting! <reloads his guns> I mean it! <cocks a gun for him> we really need this to stop! <unloads missiles off a truck> I mean it!”
Only in the final final week before the election did I find any hope of cutting off weapons shipments. I had to dig, I had to scrounge, I had to be plugged in all day, every day, and trust political tabloids to maybe have it right this time, even as they referenced hints and leaked memos that the reader just had to trust existed.
Evidence was sparse, hard to find, and hard to trust.
Meanwhile, the sale of Palestinian Land https://wagingnonviolence.org/2025/01/activists-infiltrate-israeli-events-selling-palestinian-land-in-us/ Continues unabated. We see the incentive even beyond the “manifest destiny” style ideology, we see material gain for Israel to continue as long as ammo will last.
And rather than break from Joe, she wanted to be seen as AIPAC as honoring his commitments. She had a long history of supporting Israel. Publicly. Loudly. Even as that foreign-state’s lobby backed people far to her right in both parties. https://theintercept.com/2024/10/24/aipac-spending-congress-elections-israel/
This information was widely available. Easily accessible. Why would I trust someone who wants AIPAC campaign money to share my values when I don’t even see her articulating them in any meaningful way?
Harris’ refusal to break from Biden on the campaign trail and the DNC consultants sunk her campaign into the ground.
Harris would have plenty of room to break from Biden once he was out of the White House.
This is what I mean when I say Biden was a life long Zionist. He was actively sabotaging US foreign policy since he was VP.
https://jewishcurrents.org/joe-bidens-alarming-record-on-israel
At this crucial juncture, Biden undercut Obama again. After Clinton’s ultimatum, the vice president—who was still traveling in the Middle East—contacted Netanyahu himself. In their book Our Separate Ways: The Struggle for the Future of the U.S.-Israel Alliance, Dana Allin and Steve Simon describe Biden’s discussion with the Israeli prime minister as “a conciliatory call” that had the effect of “undercutting Clinton and reinforcing Israel’s generally dismissive approach to the administration’s periodically tough messaging.” An administration official remembers being “astonished” upon seeing the transcript of the conversation: “Biden completely undercut the secretary of state and gave Bibi a strong indication that whatever was being planned in Washington was hotheadedness and he could defuse it when he got back.” When Clinton saw the transcript, the official recalls, she “realized she’d been thrown under the bus.”
This is not the same as supporting a two-state solution.
Harris’ refusal to break from Biden on the campaign trail and the DNC consultants sunk her campaign into the ground.
Yep. I don’t understand this fetish for decorum. People are hurting, and all your entire party could do was consider the feelings of a dementia-riddled genocide supporter.
Quit running defense for a Party that was already staging Genocide before Joe was in charge:
They’re just more polite, so they let you go back to brunch while the Genocide continues within our own border.
Fuck you and everything you stand for, Diet-Fascist.
Yep. I don’t understand this fetish for decorum.
With Obama I posit he had to overcome racism and Bill Clinton cheating on Hillary Clinton.
Quit running defense for a Party that was already staging Genocide before Joe was in charge:
I’m arguing for the most useful strategy during elections. Which you did by voting for Harris. Other people on here are still arguing against this.
No one has to like the Democrats. They’re our most useful tool until some socialist or progressive co-opts the Democratic party. edit: typo
She promised to be every bit as hard as Trump.
Bullshit. Biden deported more than Trump. But it wasn’t news because he did it legally. Everyone got due process. There were no foreign prisons for the mass deportations. The problem with Trump isn’t the deportation but his illegal methods.
Its all just more authoritarian propaganda man. They’re either mentally deficient or brainwashed at this point.
Way to unpack your slurs, maaan.
Anarchist here to tell you Obama turned deportation hearings into drive-thru ceremonies instead of actual justice:
https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/speed-over-fairness-deportation-under-obama
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The problem with Trump isn’t the deportation but his illegal methods.
To a Liberal? Sure. One minute court hearings under Obama were technically “due process”. https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/speed-over-fairness-deportation-under-obama
I care about my neighbors, not some piece of paper.
For a long time, Democrats have been polite Republicans, and I’m tired of pretending otherwise.
It is possible for her to be a bad candidate who made consistently bad decisions, and for it still to be a bad choice for an individual to not vote for her.
source: *gestures in all directions *
100% I have voted in every primary until this one bc it was canceled. I still voted for her even though I hated it bc the reality is/was that, of the two choices, she was not the worst.
The time for moral grandstanding is always long past when it’s Election Day.
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The time for moral grandstanding is always long past when it’s Election Day.
Good line. And good reasoning before that!
I have voted third party in the distant past. It’s not some awful taboo to not play along with the two party system. And given my extended family, the further back I look in the past the more that right wing stuff just seemed normal, so I may not make the same choice now.
But the time to abstain or go third party is when the price of expressing my more ideal choice is worth not voting against the worse of the 2-party candidates.
I guess the logical exception to that is if you’re an accelerationist and you think we are SO far beyond being able to course correct that it is literally a more moral and humane outcome to turn the nu-neo-nazis loose on just about every vulnerable demographic that exists. Then you get to the rebuild phase faster and there’s less time for the government to kill & ruin people. But you never know if your plan is going to hit a little roadblock called nuclear armageddon.
Again, third party votes did not remotely sway the 2024 election. Blaming protest voters for your candidate’s anemic performance just reeks of entitlement.
Yeah sure, but I wasn’t talking about any of that. It was about the individual decision making process.
Accelerationism is how we got Israel holding an abnormal amount of power for a country their size / economic importance.
100% real. I had the same reasoning. I’m just mad she didn’t let me bring more people with me.
Do you even hear yourself?
Absolutely. That’s the sound of me pointing out the practical reality that sometimes all the choices are bad and people make up their mind for dumb reasons regardless of what choice they make.
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trump still worse.
No thought comment?
I can do that too.
(Voted for her too, btw, I’m mad her rhetoric didn’t let me bring friends)
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There were a million reasons that people didn’t show for Harris. Why do you scold only the people who were outspoken against genocide? Can you point to any evidence that this issue swung the election?
Biden put Harris in a terrible position by holding out as long as he did. Then Harris ran a horrendous campaign. That is why she lost.
People who care about Gaza are people who are politically engaged. That not who stayed home. Politically engaged people vote third party when they want to protest, and third party votes did not sway this election. Not even close.
People who stay home are normies who have given up. A lot of people need inspiration to show up, and centrist Democrats just aren’t inspiring.
I can only suppose that your fixation on the genocide issue is because you like the genocide and were pissed off that people objected to it. That’s the only reason to bring this trash up in every damn conversation about the Trump administration.
FTFY
How do you vote against concentration camps when both candidates are genocidal?
lol this nonsense again, let me guess you didnt vote in protest.
Poor technocrit. Your attempt to keep Republicans in power by infecting progressive-leaning voters with apathy, it just keeps getting weaker and weaker, doesn’t it?
you vote for the party that’s open to negotiations on the subject, i stead of the part that is committed to genocide at all costs
What would you have me do?
Harris said she would work toward peace talks. Whether this was true or not will never be known. But from what I’ve read, despite what she really wanted, she had to “toe the line” and not stray from Biden’s policies if she wanted to keep her campaign alive.
trump campaigned to not only let Netanyahu “finish the job,” and to write Israel a “blank check,” and to build a resort in Gaza, but also to build concentration camps ON AMERICAN SOIL, and to send Americans and immigrants in the US to foreign concentration camps.
Not voting for either is essentially a vote for trump, in this current political climate.
So voting for Harris is the closest we get to voting against concentration camps.
The dems in congress are still supporting Israel as hard as ever. Why do you think Kamala, who hasn’t done or said anything since losing, would be any different? Are we forgetting she was VP and did nothing for an entire year of slaughter?
So then it’s literally a no win scenario, and I had to pick the least bad. My point stands.
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Then you’re a fucking moron. “lmao”
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I didn’t pick Harris with any sort of glee. I picked her because she was better than trump AND THERE WAS NO OTHER CHOICE.
Why is that so fucking hard for you people to understand?!
trump is clearly the WORST option. Harris is not a good option but still better than trump. ANY OTHER OPTION APART THOSE TWO IS A WASTED VOTE. In a race this close, it would essentially be a vote for the worse option. PROTEST VOTES DON’T DO SHIT with an electoral college.
I hate the genocide in Gaza. I am 100% against it. Harris wasn’t a good option to end it, BUT SHE WAS STILL THE BEST OPTION - the closest (even if only marginally so) to even getting the CHANCE to end it.
You fuckers keep telling me shit like I have “blood on my hands” because I voted for Harris and it’s FUCKING BULLSHIT. There was NO BETTER OPTION.
You don’t get how American politics work, and this anti-Harris rhetoric is essentially an endorsement of trump - who is worse in every single metric.
So fuck off. I’m doing what I can to stop the genocide and I won’t be fucking blamed for it. Asshole.
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Exactly. The key to remember is that “vote blue no matter who” is a one-way street with one-way loyalty. Centrists demand loyalty from progressives, but they will never offer the same in return.
Lemme guess…Whoa whoa genocide joe where did you come from where did you go, where did you come from genocide joe
Disingenuous bullshit.
Both candidates support israel, how is that disingenuous?
You know. I don’t need to explain it to you.
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Tell me more about who I am please.
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Show me one who wasn’t “pro genocide”.
Edit: 26 down votes, and no one has even tried to put forward a “non-genocide” candidate. Really speaks volumes that they don’t even try.
That’s the point isn’t it? No matter who you voted for you voted for genocide.
Might as well vote for the one that follows the law, won’t deport people without due process to an extra-national torture prison, won’t demonize and harm LGBTQ citizens, and is willing to be held accountable.
Sure. Though I don’t know about that last part exactly. Since we all support genocide we should at least have some other stuff.
Since we all support genocide…
Your words not mine.
we should at least have some other stuff.
That quick list is in no way comprehensive.
There it is. Every time. They always get defensive. Yeah they were my words. They were factual words. You voted for genocide. I voted for genocide. Most of America voted for genocide, the ones that didn’t vote? They also voted for genocide. Get off your high horse, that’s what you voted for if you can’t accept it then you have no business talking about anything else.
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Yeah… Single issue voters like this is what brought this orange demon upon us (again). Israel is really influential; they are going to genocide no matter what with the help of all their allies. By voting (or not voting) on this one issue, you risk huge economic stability and more war, as we’ve seen.
The entire world knows your political system is rubbish but, whether we like it or not, USA is the world police. And when the world police no longer polices we get emboldened actions like bombing Iran for no good reason.
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Oh please. Genocide denial? Of course there’s a genocide going on in Palestine that’s being driven by Israel and their allies. That’s not the debate here.
Get off your high horse. Your political system is absolute rubbish and you’ve cornered yourselves onto picking status quo and a lunatic. And unfortunately, your elected president pretty much determines a lot of what the Western sphere does.
I wish the US didn’t have anywhere near the amount of influence it has but it was lucky that they were largely untouched in WW2 which provided a developmental advantage.
You might sleep better for not having taken part in your democracy or whatever, but the fact that the rest of us now have to deal with the international fall out is so, so frustrating.
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And when the world police no longer polices we get emboldened actions like bombing Iran for no good reason.
I think you have a mistaken idea of what the policing has looked like in the past 78 years. The US bombed Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Indonesia, Guatemala, Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Lybia, and they’ve armed plenty of regimes doing the bombing for them (Saddam Hussein, for example). America has been destabilizing the globe for decades, and there is a lot of blood on their hands (on the order of 12 million, if we count direct casualties).
You think there was a good reason for invading Iraq?
Nope. Not at all. I don’t think any of it is good at all.
However, it doesn’t matter because the US has the biggest military in the world and maintained some semblance of global order. Now that the US has essentially flipped sides, it’s caused all sorts of instability with the global economy.
I’m being selfish here because your orange idiot and the sheer greed of your richest people has caused issues in our economy. It honestly would’ve been better under Harris.
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In general? Yes, but I’d be a lot less ashamed if trump wasn’t the president.
ots upsetting how far down I had to scroll to find this comment
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Who did you vote for then?
these manufacturing guilt posts would work if we were not seeing dnc sabotage mamadani to favour predatory stooges just like trump. the “blue no matter what” is only for trash candidates that superpacs want. everytime we get close to a leader that we want like bernie or aoc or mamdani, dnc shows they work for the trumps not against them.
i am not a violent person so pls suggest how we can help get aoc elected in 2029 without doing a luigi on likes of pelosi and schumer ?
…you think AOC is an outsider? Oh sweet, sweet summer child, bless your heart.
she might not be an outsider but she seems to have a spine, supports the progressive cause and candidates. she is the way “lesser evil” that we should be settling for. she is also liked and respected by a lot of fringe gop voters. so there’s a good chance that in time she also get fulls house and senate majority.
I dont hear much about what she’s done for her constituents outside of social media posts attacking people or performative political actions. I dont dislike AOC but it is accurate to say she hasnt done anything of substance yet.
I will say its clear who will be running for president though, her and newsom are both extremely obvious about it.
Going after AOC for allegedly not doing anything for her constituents is pretty damn ignorant. You aren’t going to find many House members who are as engaged as she is, and her constituents are overwhelmingly pleased with her.
She is also one of maybe half a dozen House members with an effective social media game. You can belittle it as “performative” but engaging in public rhetoric is a big part of a politician’s job. I wish every Democrat advocated as well as she does.
It’s funny that you are attacking her on social media by criticizing her for attacking people on social media.
I think it’s far more likely she runs for Schumer’s seat in the Senate than the presidency. It’s pretty much her’s if she wants it.
does anyone really thinks that these dnc elites actually care about anyone other than themselves and the megadonor billionaires:
Every human is created equal. But then again - those who believe themselves above other humans and actively hate them and try to strip their freedom away (through race, money, etc) - those I do deem to be less than human, and below me and anyone wanting to live in peace.
The hateful will always have reasons to hate, they actively look for them in everything and base their lives completely on their misery, and their ability to spread it to others like a plague.
If you can’t live in a world with people different from you, and you feel the need to harm them, maybe instead of killing them, it’d be easier to get rid of you instead.
I see stuff like this and laugh. It would seem that most Americans, Democrats in particular, cling to the notion that they will have a chance to vote again. If there are midterms or another full election, they will be rigged the same as Russia, North Korea or any other “strongman” dictatorship. Keyboard warriors won’t make a whit of difference.
It’s one of the only things we have left to do so we better hope it makes a difference.
The right never gets any shit for using their key boards to advocate for murdering us all and it seems pretty effective for them.
