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      yea, you know just like how he “joked” about rounding up brown people, or cut most people’s medical aid, or destroy the american soft power.

      you know, just funny things he would totally never ever do, because that would mean his voters are retarded.

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      It’s possible his aides had it in their head that they’re the “good guys” and fully bought into the propaganda that Trump was going to save America and then had their whole realities shook when they saw Trump and Putin talking together in perfect English talking about their callous conspiracies to wreck nations and crush people they hate together.

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          No one is that dumb. Right?

          Not only can people in the highest positions be that dumb, it’s even worse than we think.

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      As soon as he stops being president all that Epstein shit is going to fall over him, he knows that so he’s going to try to use his power to stay in power.

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      You have been at war since the January 6th beerhall putsch attempt. It’s just that one side didn’t realise and didn’t even put your new dictator into a luxury prison first before letting him get re-elected. Rookie mistake honestly.

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      You are clearly not understanding what is going on. America wants what is going on. If he stays in power (he will) half of Americans want him to. No one is gonna stop him. He will never give up as much power as he has, willingly. Americans will not take up arms against him either.

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    Americans are a bunch of pussies, Trump knows that. The land of the brave have become the land of the meek and coward.

    Stop talking about civil war, just do it or shut up. Americans are pathetic…

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      The entire EU is going to mega web surveillance mode “to protect children” and not doing shit about it. We are all a bunch of bitches that take what these parasites give us. Sit the fuck down.

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        What the fuck are you talking about ? The registration thing about the pornographic site ? Are you kidding me? You are comparing this with Trump licking Putin butt and crushing most of its citizen into slavery and submission ?

        In Europe everything gets blocked and capitals get flooded with protestor for less than 0,01% of what Trump is doing.

        Wake up, americans are fat, lazy and castrated sheeps spending their times arguing about wokeness or any other nonsense. Nothing compared to Europe.

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            Even when a normal party gets to power its a hell of a headache for them to govern without triggering nation wide protest. With a far right one it would be worse…

            And some european countries already have far right government, like Italy. Is Meloni licking Putin butt or destroying its country or under investigation for pedophilia or corruption? No cause she is not a dictator like Trump.

            Even Orban who is the greatest pos of European leader has way more decency than Trump.

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          Exactly. 45% of Americans are morbidly obese. They’re not gonna “go without” or stick their neck out for anything if it disrupts the journey of the next burger into their mouths. Trump is their king and they love it.

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            No, we do not. I can’t help it if half my neighbors are illiterate. Wait until you find out just how many of your hate people who are not just like them. Your time is coming and I wish you the best of luck. It is awful to go through. We are no apathetic just because we can not stand against the most powerful military in the world.

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              If you see something terrible happening around you and you don’t try to stop it - you are complicit. So if you’re American, you’re complicit in enabling Trump and his crimes.

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                You know we have protests, right? They are huge but there is no media coverage. The next step is violence. The National Guard is being called in 19 more states. How do you feel about fighting the US military? I am a nerd that has never killed anything. It will not go well for me. I guess we will be in a war soon enough. I wonder will you all still be talking shit when we are forced to kill our own family members in a civil war. Even if the sensible side wins, I don’t even know what we would do with the 50% of the population that is illiterate and can not be bothered to understand anyone who is not just like them. Americans are so disappointing. What a bunch of idiots! I wish I could go.

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              Ofc you can help, you are just too afraid/lazy to take actions. Freedom is never granted, its taken. Every european know this

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      They never will. They have a ton of excuses “I have to work, take care of kids, parents” blah blah blah “I can only demonstrate on the weekend”…. Pathetic clown country.

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    Is that why they drew up attack plans for Mexico? Probably some sort of bullshit like the gangs and caravans of immigrants keep coming over the border, so they have to go into Mexico to deal with them before the evil dangerous criminals get to the US border. Then occupy a part of Mexico and call off the elections due to the war. Trump is always talking about how he’s like a “wartime” president.

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    We’ve had elections during a war before and we can do it again. Ukrainian laws don’t apply to the US.

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      If the war was closer or even inside the US, it might be a different thing. I wouldn’t be surprised if he could still consider it though.

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          I can’t help but feel like a civil war is a different scenario. Russia currently controls 20% of Ukraine. For the sake of simplicity, that’s 10 US states. I have a very hard time believing that if a foreign country had complete control of 10 states, and the majority of the people of those states, for all intents and purpose were unable to vote, an election would go over smoothly. I have to imagine it would be an utter shitshow.

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            I see where you’re coming from, though I would argue that if we’re at war in '28 it won’t be because the US was invaded by a foreign power.

          • Practically, if the US was actually occupied by a foreign force (having a puppet president doesn’t count), then the occupied areas will not be able to cast their ballots, and the states being partially occupied will have a biased result and electors will be appointed by those living in unoccupied areas. If a whole state is occupied, they probably would have electoral votes that are not cast (since they wouldn’t have a certificate of ascertainment from the now defunct state government). Election would get very ugly even if its a 51/49 split in the remaining electoral college votes since if, say, a state with 18 electors is occupied, one side could get 265 electoral votes and the other gets 255 electoral votes, so there would be a constitutional crisis on whether this counts as a majority (265/520) or not a majority (265/538).

            But I’m guessing they’ll go by Civil War precedent and just exclude the occupied states from being counted so its probably 520 as the total electoral votes using that same example.

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      Yeah, the law pertaining to not holding elections during martial law in Ukraine was created during another person’s presidency as well. He didn’t make that. (It stemmed from Russias invasion into Ukraine in 2014, law made in 2015). Zelensky didn’t become president until 2019.

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      You motherfuckers are already armed. But he’s not black or a child no no one is gonna shoot him anyway

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        That’s exactly what he’s hoping for.

        He’s militarizing cities as we speak. If he keeps amping it up, protests will theoretically follow. MAGA will find some reason to claim these protests “turned violent”. Trump declares martial law and cancels elections. Done.

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      I thought that’s why y’all kept sacrificing children to gun violence, but apparently they were to support, not fight, facism. Or at least to have them hanging there while supposedly American values get trampled.

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        Look, it’s not simple. Armed rebellion is not a good time. If that course is taken it’s critical to first understand where the states fall. Since each has it’s own military, among other things, no tactical decisions can be made until those lines are drawn, or fragmented accordingly.

        It’s kinda the equivalent of asking why the Italians aren’t doing a revolution because the EU decided to ban Pasta. Like sure they did that, it’s not good, but like what happens if Germany doesn’t participate and Ireland sides with Italy?

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          Also, this country is huge and most of us are living paycheck to paycheck. It’s tough to have an armed rebellion when you can’t afford enough gas to drive to the front lines.

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          I hope you realize your argument boils down to “because the right people aren’t suffering yet”. 🤢

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          People keep wondering why we aren’t in a full blown shooting war yet, even trying to bait us into it. That day will come, it’s nearly inevitable at some level, but it takes time to get to that point. It will take EVERY American to feel like we have done EVERYTHING we can to avoid it, and then the MAGA Nazis are finally going to do something to put us over the edge, and it will be on.

          I have a few red lines. One is my son. My son will not be fighting in any MAGA war, period. If he gets drafted he will not go. If the government does anything to him, I will become a very dangerous person.

          Another is elections. If elections are suspended or cancelled for ANY reason, then America has ceased to exist, and I cooperate with nothing. I don’t pay taxes, I don’t follow the laws, etc. As far as I am concerned, there is no government, no law enforcement, no laws. Without elections, we are without a government, we are in a state of Anarchy, and I will recognize no authority.

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            People keep moving the goalposts. I’ve been hearing next line in the sand will be 'the onec since their Godking rose to power.

            I’m sure it will be the files bro. Surely the files. Trust me bro one more scandal.

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    If we got through WWII, with troops scattered around the world, without canceling elections or even disenfranchising the soldiers fighting overseas, he has no excuse. (How did a solider in France, a sailor in the Philippine Sea, or a marine on Leyte Island vote? Mail-in ballots.)

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    He is NOT JOKING. This is his plan.

    You think he’s deploying the military on US soil because he gives a fuck about law and order? Guess again. He’s testing the waters now to see what he can get away with when the time comes.

    Federal elections have never been cancelled or postponed in the history of the nation. Not even for the Civil War, or WWII. It’s mandated by the constitution.

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      Same how the 14th Amendment to the Constitution is basically invalidated as long as some states hold off on challenging his EO undoing it.

      He’ll do some “Elections will happen, but only in states that are nice to me and I expect to win” EO and will basically take CA and IL out of the results, and their results won’t be certified by Congress. Because right now it’s a race to rig 2026 to save donor campaign money.

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      He is a dictator. There will be no more elections. America is an autocracy.