• TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I love this for Disney!

    I was never a subscriber, and barely care about any of their products, anyway. If I never see another Disney-produced show again, I’ll be just fine.

    Fuck 'em.

  • Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world
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    I tell ya, its fucking hilarious seeing the right and left switching sides on this. Back when Gina Carano got fired, the right were all “Cancel disney plus!!!” and the left were like “Freedom of speech, not freedom from consequences!!!”. And now its the left crying about free speech, and the right circlejerking “consequences”.

    Humanity is fucked.

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      Gina got fired for something she did outside of her job. Jimmy got fired for doing the job he was hired to do, because a government official threatened his employer.

      The first amendment is to protect against government censorship, it has no intention to protect you from public outcry. It should have protected Jimmy, but it’s irrelevant in the case of Gina.

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        Gina got fired because she was pointing out that she was getting rape and death threats over not putting pro nouns in her bio. All that all twitter did was delete them. Carr made remarks, but he had no power to do anything. Thats why there is no legal document or order. Because it would be illegal. So the drawing of a conclusion here would be an error. There was no “threat”. It would be like me threating you to stop posting here. I have no power to force that to happen. I can say it as much as I want, but who be right to just point and laugh at me.

        In any case, it doesnt matter. Its all the same shit with the same arguments, and same “well actually, this is different because…”. Gina was right to draw attention to her online attacks, and disney was right to be want to be associated with the way that she went about it, as I think we can all agree it was dumb as fuck to use Jewish people in the analogy. In any analogy in fact.

        In the case of Kimmel, hes just not funny. And I wouldnt be surprised if this just all turned out to be just a way to get out of the late night talkshow game by ABC, without breaking any contracts.

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    Nothing in the article mentions how many people actually unsubbed…

  • jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.world
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    Never much liked Jimmy Kimmel but he earned some brownie points here haha. Not sure any of this counts for a lot, the “droves” number seems to a few twitter accounts that said they cancelled and one that said the website was slow when they tried to do it.

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        3 months ago

        Agreed. Something is better than nothing, and if enough people get on board, it might just be enough to make a difference.

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          Extending that, it’s going to take a lot of people doing a lot of different things, from all angles, to ultimately succeed in quashing fascism again.

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              Examples of simple, non-aggressive things that anyone can do:

              • Get healthy. You will need physical stamina.
              • Make a space in your home for short or long term guests. There will be refugees.
              • Plant a garden. There will be shortages.
              • Record, report, resist. Use your phone to record fascist activites. The linked site is one way to make sure those videos are publicly available.
              • Build networks with neighbors and friends, online and off. We will need to support each other.
              • Learn how to prepare rations, even if it’s just hard tack. Armies fight on their stomachs.
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      I didn’t see any numbers in TFA. Do you have any numbers? I think we just don’t know.

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        I think we can speculate with a high degree of confidence that it won’t influence their profit growth projections.

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          I wouldn’t be so sure about that, the Disney brand has taken a major hit here. I think it is still impossible to say what it is going to cost them but it will cost them, they certainly aren’t making more money out of this. It is not a situation that makes the line go up, people are absolutely pissed at Disney.

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            The Disney brand has taken a huge hit because they fired Kimmel, a guy who’s rating were tanking? Lol

            Disney made a business decision, and Kimmel approves of them doing that quickly and strongly.

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              Yes, they have. Being seen to capitulate on free speech has pissed a lot of people off. His ratings are irrelevant, people who hate Kimmel are pissed because it’s not about him specifically.

              Your image with the Kimmel quote is a different situation. Businesses are free to make business decisions, that is exactly the problem here. They were not free, and as Trump has reiterated, there’s now a new censorship regime enforced by the FCC which is going to continue interfering in these businesses to silence critics.

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                ABC chose to cancel his show. Trump didn’t.

                The FCC said they might investigate because there are laws around what can be shown/said on free to air broadcast television, and blatant lying and spreading misinformation for political reasons is, shockingly, not allowed.

                It’s funny that the left are now cranky at Disney and trying to “cancel” them, thinking it will piss off the right, while the right has been vocally anti-Disney for years lol.

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                  You seem to either be uninformed or not commenting in good faith. The FCC explicitly coerced Disney, Trump in his own words says they are going after these companies for being critical of him. Using the power of the state in this way is categorically different than social movements trying to “cancel” people.

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          A drove has at least 4 people in it so we can establish an upper bound of 2.4 billion droves.

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            I think your upper bound is too many droves, the limit is total Disney Plus subscribers.

            Here is some potentially useful data: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1095372/disney-plus-number-of-subscribers-us/

            To me it looks like their numbers may be trending down already so a boycott could be extra effective. If they have lots of customers already considering leaving then giving them an excuse like participating in a boycott in defense of free speech could help accelerate that trend and make a bigger impact.

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              Well yes, it’s not a very tight upper bound, but I was bringing it down from infinity. I’m glad the scientific process is working and we’re refining this (in droves) over time.

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            Given that each person can hold as many accounts as they like, the number of accounts that’ve closed is anywhere from 8.01 to (2.4billion-.25)*4infinity (because I had only one account). I can see why they’re panicking

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        Cowards will be cowards I say, but us simpletons don’t understand the high stakes and day to day pressures of a modern multinational corporate conglomerate. They have profit margins, investor boards, and mergers to consider. Heavens! What good is free speech if they don’t make more money this quarter than they made last quarter? Please, good people of the Fediverse, won’t somebody think of the shareholders?

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    I can’t unsubscribe, but you bet I can avoid every one of Marvel’s Phase 6 movies next year in protest.

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    I hope they lose everything, and their CEO’s have to log in to the internet from a well used and disrespected latrine.

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      It could cost Bob Iger (Disney CEO) his job. Eisner is already gunning for him again.

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    I saw this suggestion on the site that shall not be named.

    Find a Nexstar or Sinclair owned channel, note the advertisers in there, and start shaming them for paying money to advertise on those networks. Literally 50% of their revenue comes from ads so gutting that would make a difference

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      Yeah, pressure at all levels.

      You can also look at a local station’s website and see advertising partners. Not the little fish that buy 1-2 ads a year for a local business, the ones that get their ads ran the most and in the best timeslots.

      That’s where pressure is best applied on affiliates

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      “The site that shall not be named”

      … Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down? (/j)

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      Here’s Sinclair: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_stations_owned_or_operated_by_Sinclair_Broadcast_Group

      Here’s Nexstar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_Nexstar_Media_Group

      Edit: *David Smith, son of the founder and currently CEO of Sinclair, has a hilarious entry-

      In an August 1996 prostitution sting, Smith was charged with committing an “unnatural and perverted sex act” (oral sex) in a Sinclair company vehicle. He was sentenced to community service, which was fulfilled by having Sinclair station WBFF produce reports on a local drug counseling program.[14][15]

      Aaaaand not so funny-

      Prior to Ajit Pai’s appointment under the first Donald Trump presidential administration as chairman of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), Smith met with Pai to discuss deregulation of the FCC’s media ownership rules. This meeting, plus Sinclair having been granted additional access to Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, resulted in accusations that Sinclair was currying favor with the Trump administration in exchange for deregulation of the industry.[16][17][18] Smith met with Republican Party presidential candidate Donald Trump during the 2016 presidential election year, in which he told Trump, “We are here to deliver your message.”[3]

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    Be aware: Newsweek has a history of posting stories that placate and reassure the non-MAGA crowd. I don’t 100% trust their intentions as an organization. Kamala Harris was definitely going to win according to Newsweek, the week before the election.