D…divisive?
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Oh for a moment there I was beginning to doubt the direction of USA.
Well I guess it’s still full steam ahead to dismantle democracy and introduce an authoritarian dictatorship.So this one is fine then ? https://www.bhamwiki.com/w/File:Banksy_hanged_klansman.png
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The symbol predates the Nazis coopting of it by a few thousand years. Used to mean peace forever or something. Only became the symbol of fascism because the Nazis misappropriated it
yeah, that’s cool, but it’s for nazis now.
Most eurocentric thing I’ve seen today. The swastika is still used in Indian religions. I guess very theoretically an exception could be made for practicing Hindus, but I doubt the military has too many of those.
dunno about that, friend. it was a WORLD war, after all…
I don’t see why people are down voting this. It’s true, and doesn’t necessarily call for the return of the symbol in any way. The Nazis took a lot of symbols for themselves, but some of them will be forever associated with them now. Nobody can really save the sunwheel symbol at this point.
Some modern Pagan/Heathen religious movements might try to reclaim some symbols while being staunchly anti-nazi, but it’s hard for them to do that while people have little education other than “Nazis used this” and not knowing the history. I believe some of these symbols are beyond redemption at this point, especially the swastika, and it’s better to focus on those that have no Nazi ties or maybe ones that are so loose that they don’t really matter.
I don’t see why people are down voting this.
Feel-good internet points or some shit like that.
Humans being human…
Pre-WW2 use of the swastika: all good.
Post-WW2 use of the swastika, specifically in the context of this discussion (for armed service members in the western world): very, very not good.
Its fair for the wrong reasons.
It’s fair because it is a peace symbol.
Its wrong because it is and will be used as a hate symbol.
The swastika does stand for a symbol of peace when it leans in the counter-clockwise position. But, the Nazi swastika is backwards. Thus, it is inherently a symbol of hate.
The nazis used a variety of orientations of the symbol.
Apparently both versions are old as hell.
Cool, if any recruits can prove that they got their swastika tattoo prior to 1939, then it’s not a hate symbol. But still, don’t invite them in though, they can’t come in until invited.
great; now hegseth can finally finish his chest tattoo
“It’s going to be a maze”
In the us, the default country ofc
I hate this so much that politics@lemmy.world, you know the explicitly not-only-US instance, specifically only allows US politics.
wtf
What IS a fucking hate symbol then???
LGBTQ and trans flags
Until I see it from an alternate source, I’m calling bullshit on this one. It sounds like bullshit.
It’s real but getting rolled back
A rainbow swastika (for whatever the fuck reason that would ever exist), that is where the line is it seems.
A peace sign
Soon the peace gesture with your 2 fingers will be considered an ANTIFA symbol and warrant immediate deportation.
How about half a peace sign?
That’s also an Antifa sign to show displeasure, but it’s more offensive, so they just shoot you dead.
According to these Nazis.
I think I was trying to suggest something about the duality of man, sir.
The Mexican flag, probably.
I’m still wondering when time travelers are gonna fix this timeline.
I’m afraid this is the timeline where they dump all the assholes from other timelines
Maybe something worse happening in the future has them occupied
Yea cause 'muricans organizing and standing up for themselves is certainly not a good idea.
muricans standing up for nazis. Seditious behavior, as the glorious leader would put it. Seems overall very anti-american to me.
I’ve thought about it, and I’m fairly certain that time travelers had to call it quits and agree worldwide to stop it. Like, every outcome was worse than the last. . And, that means that our current trajectory is somehow the least destructive.
Nazis from the past used the Nazi time machine to travel to the future and destroy our society here in 2025.
I hate how everything about this is makes sense including the fact that if Nazis made a time machine it would just move forward through time at a rate of one day per day.
Or when the simulation we live in will be declared a failure and we’ll get rebooted. Every morning I wake up disappointed.
This will be changed after Trump is removed.
I actually don’t think Trump is behind this one. hear me out:
there are two factions emerging within MAGA. the Evangelicals and MAGA-leaning neocons are heavily Zionist, so there’s no way they’d let this happen. the second faction are the alt-right/groypers/white nationalists, who simp for Nick Fuentes and Laura Loomer. Gen Z belongs overwhelmingly to this second camp, as illustrated by the Young Republicans discord leak.
Trump himself has no political views other than his own power and personal vengeance, but I’d still put him closer to the first camp since he’s a Boomer, and he’s in Bibi’s pocket. so I think whoever pushed for this is probably part of the same cabal that posts Nazi dogwhistles on DHS’s Twitter - part of the second camp.
and that second camp will become the future of the Republican party, unfortunately.
Trump is merely the vehicle being used by the likes of Thiel. As soon as he croaks or becomes too much hassle, JD will take the reins. There’s others, too.
A lot of Zionists are just as antisemitic as the nazis, save for replacing exterminationism with deportations to Israel. Others are clever enough to say “Jews are genetically better with money than the Goyim” rather than “Jews are greedy”.
I’m floored we are getting pro zionist nazis this go around.
The original Nazis were Zionists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
They wanted Jewish people gone from Germany, and Palestine was far enough away to make them happy.
Huh? This is such a bizzare take. So people looking for safe exit in US due to fascist government are nazis?
Ironically, if you actually read the link, zionists were generally against this.
So… uhh… you’re accusing WW2 jews (not modern) of being nazis, but not directly, not indirectly, not by making a comment/explanation by yourself, but rather linking to a wikipedia page that has no mentions or explanation behind your thought process?
I don’t think WW2 era Jewish people were Nazis, that’s a thing you invented by assuming the relation I described was symmetric. Why would it be symmetric???
heavily Zionist, so there’s no way they’d let this happen.
I don’t see a difference between zionist and nazi, so yes way.
Zionists believe in the supremacy of the jewish population. Nazis believe in supremacy of the white race, but also exterminating jews.
It’s easy to see how both systems of hate can be used to goad lower class sects into eliminating “the enemy” instead of visualizing the class war. There are very likely much smaller camps of rich elites that play both sides, but outside of that, the two groups are distinct. Trump has supported both before, since both have sucked up to him.
Never did.
Instead, the Coast Guard will classify the Nazi-era insignia as ‘potentially divisive’ under its new guidelines. The new policy, set to take effect Dec. 15, similarly downgrades the definition of nooses and the Confederate flag
Threatening racial lynchings is “potentially divisive” but not hateful, apparently. I guess there are very fine people on both sides of the white supremacist lynchings debate.
I am all for reclaiming symbols stolen by fascists, but we all know this is absolutely not what they are getting to.
I once didn’t shave for weeks on a no-shave November. When I finally shaved I decided to see how I would look like with a toothbrush mustache… and I found that it suited me great! (At least I think it did) but I knew i couldn’t have it and I shaved it off.
I wish we could DeNazify that mustache and make it the simple and sometimes whimsical mustache it was in the past.
It would be really great. I HATE shaving that part of my face. Doesn’t matter how well I prep or what razor I use. It always hurts. I don’t like having facial hair but just that would be tolerable.
It wasnt even 24 hours before the the colossal apopcalyptic blowback on this made them reverse their decision.
Now we just have to wonder why they want to make hate symbols okay in the military… I’m sure its totally not anything to do with trying to build a white nationalist military that will gleefull obey illegal orders and slaughter the “other” in the streets at piggy boys command.
It’s FUCKING DHS only… For some reason they put the Coast guard under the dumbasses at DHS they’re the ones who are trying to not see everything how surprising is that really.
It’s cause of the tattoos. Too many Nazis being excluded from the military.
yes, thats basically what i said.
