Video shared on social media shows a Waymo driving through a red light and into an active police standoff in downtown Los Angeles.

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    In response to the incident, a company spokesperson told NBC that “safety is our highest priority at Waymo"

    In all the recent stories about Waymos cruising right on past stopped school buses that have their stop sign out, lights flashing, and kids crossing, they said the same thing. They also stated that Waymos “will not be taken off the streets for now.” That’s even though it’s still happening even after they updated the software and thought they’d fixed it.

    My first thought was, Why the hell do they get to say whether or not their Waymos will be taken off the streets?! Why aren’t they being told to get the damn things off the streets until they’ve proved this won’t happen again? Have we all just completely rolled over for the oligarchs to the point where we just let them do anything they want even after they’ve killed animals and nearly killed schoolchildren? (that’s a rhetorical question of course).

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    Choose all the squares where a cop isn’t laying low to the ground…

    Blue bag of chips, t-shirt on the ground, fuzzy blue ink on road, blue squirrel, rubble pile of blue stuff. All perfectly fine items.

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      Google owns waymo, they’re likely to drive suspected brown people to the ICE detentions centers without warning than disrupt them.

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      Well, someone in the US probably could get a waymo, make it drive to an area near one, and then go “oopsie”, provided they are white and normal-looking enough.

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    Someday: “Our officers, in fear for their lives, had no choice but to fire upon the approaching Waymo when it refused to obey their orders to stop. We regret the unfortunate collateral damage inflicted to the passengers, which was unavoidable.”

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    How tf do you get to the ‘put an autonomous vehicle on the road’ stage without ever considering police directions to a driver, or basic safety around first responders??

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      Imagine if they were in an active shootout, that thing just goes driving through the middle.

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      They’re supposed to be able to detect emergency lights and take action to avoid or stop. But they’re also supposed to stop at red lights…

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      I’ve always said that edge cases will continue to plague “AI” things like self driving cars until true AGI exists. In the decades I’ve been driving I’ve seen all manner of edge cases that neither Waymo nor any other self driving car would handle properly.

      One example I like to use is when I stopped at a red light next to a construction site. I was watching the red light and didn’t see a cop next to the construction zone who was waving me through the red light. He eventually took a few steps towards my car and yelled to get my attention, after which I drove through the red light.

      For a self driving car to respond in a situation like that it would need to recognize the cop as an authority figure and not just a pedestrian that is overriding the red light you stopped at.

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        I’ve been saying this for over a decade and it’s served me well.

        Its even worse with LLMs, at least an autonomous vehicle has a set functionality, but people are using LLMs to solve all sorts a problems.

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        See the answer is to remove the edge cases. We make a special road for only self driving cars. No human traffic lights, no pedestrians, just flawless roads. While we’re at it let’s make a special road that the cars couldn’t fall off of if they tried. That will make lane keeping trivial so the cars just need to go straight. We can even make the special road steer for them. Actually since they’re all going the same way we can tie them all together so we only need one engine and can save money hehehe. We’ll make self driving so easy bro.

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          i am aware of the sarcasm and i support trains, but they do suffer from the ‘last mile’ issue. I cannot easily make to the nearest metro station without driving there. I commute on the DC beltway - its a horrific superhighway that goes to like 5 lanes on either side at some points. I have daydreamed about a kind of track in the center line where cars could drive on to a ‘rail’ and somehow get off the rail at the right point. I dont know how the tech would work (clearly) but something where personal vehicles can linkup on a shared rail line could be interesting.

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      Tech bros are some of the stupidest people on earth. Hubris plus money is a bad combination.

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    lmao

    When we encounter unusual events like this one, we learn from them as we continue improving road safety and operating in dynamic cities.”

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    drove through a red light

    just feet away from the driver, who was lying face down on the asphalt

    Neither of these statements in the article are correct. The video shows the light turning red after the car goes through the intersection and has a cut in the video before showing the driver of the white SUV get out and lay down.

    Watching on mute it just looks like the road is closed and turning left/right would be the right move…

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    That’s not a fucking standoff wtf. That’s some dude laying flat on the ground as a bunch of heavily arm thugs bark orders at him, threatening him with lethal violence if he doesn’t lay on the ground like a dog.

    Jesus futurism, wtf is this narrative

  • Annoyed_🦀 @lemmy.zip
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    Well it could be worst. Imagine it drive right through a gang war or maybe right into a giant sinkhole that just opened.