So, it seems like PieFed is becoming a real alternative to lemmy.
What are the differences between these two? From a tech perspective, and also morality/ethics, if you want. Any differences in vision for these services?
Say whatever is on your mind. I want to know.
On which one should we put our weight?
Edit: I will leave this post here, which is a post by one of the devs of Lemmy that enumerates some of the things Lemmy 1.0 has. Lemmy 1.0 seems to be already in alpha stage and is already testable. The feature selection does look fantastic. Here is the post I am referring to: https://lemmy.ml/post/40744781
I see a lot of piefed posts on Lemmy - are we not federated across so that we’re getting the milk without needing to buy the cow?
Not really. I think its more like everyone gets free milk but the lemmy milk has tankies in it.
OOooooooh… ok, well that’s a feature not a bug.
God, I hate tankies. I definitely worry about the future of lemmy with how nuts the developers are
Yeah I like Lemmy, i donate and have massive respect for the devs that worked hard for years building this software. But their views are disgusting and it will kill Lemmy eventually. We’re to small at the moment to start infighting so I dont worry to much about it. At the moment its more important for people to move away from corporate platforms to free and open platforms.
I wouldn’t necessarily say I “hate” them but god any sort of interaction is just tedious.
I do have a lot of respect for the lemmy lead dev in that he’s been a pioneer in the fediverse, and lemmy has become a popular opensource project. However, his ideological views are incompatible with mine, and he seems unusually passionate about them.
I’m gonna fuckin buy it and milk it and treat it tenderly
I’m going to just fuck it.
It is still important to support the better project, be it with our attention, or with our money/donations. What “better” means here depends on the metric.
Again, in this time and age, specially with everything going on around the world, I would hope that there is more thought about using/buying something.
I mean, I don’t jump from trend to trend, so I’ll support Lemmy until either the project gets depreciated and no more updates happen. I can still see everything because piefed is federated, so why jump from platform to platform every few months? What features really are there that make a difference?
On top of what others have said, I’m going to recommend piefed to my friends when they want to jump in because of the built in on boarding.
From the start it’ll show you and let you pick what topics you might like to see (so sort of like multireddit that groups together similarly themed communities into one feed / group), and shows what you want to filter and partially hide and or outright block posts with certain terms. It just kickstarts someone new so quickly with what they would want to see rather than going to all view and swim through a lot of posts that might turn you off of Lemmy/mbin/piefed.
And like you said Lemmy and piefed still federates with each other so still can leverage the content already existed.
And later on you could create your own topics/grouped communities just like multireddits.
Piefed has flairs, custom feeds, events, scheduled posting, hashtags, word filters, emote reactions.
TIL - FINE, I’ll give a try!
For me I jumped the ship because ever since I got introduced to Lemmy, the knowledge of who the main Lemmy devs are left a really sour aftertaste to everything.
Piefed doesn’t have this baggage and as you say - Lemmy and Piefed can federate so I can still keep connected in the communities. And you can export your Lemmy profile and import to Piefed so the switch is really easy (though saved posts don’t get imported, but oh well).
Sorry, what’s the story with the Lemmy devs?
Transphobic tankies
Wrongthink
Long story short, they are supporting and apologetic to various dictatorships, be it past or present. And anybody that disagrees is a Nazi.
You can check out !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works for some examples
Piefed lists comments from crossposts together, grouped by post, so there is less repetition due to crossposts.
Piefed lets me tag users so I can mark who is a dumbass and not worth replying to, which is nice because I block fewer users and don’t miss out on their posts that are fine because their comments elsewhere are terrible.
The two things I don’t like about piefed is that they don’t have a compact view for image posts and they don’t make the modlog easy to get to or search.
My lemmy-client (connect) also shows crosspost comments since a couple weeks.
I consider clients are their own thing since they vary significantly from the lemmy web sites.
Thanks for the rundown. OK, I’ll give it a shot.
It is still important to support the better project
If everyone went to the “best” instance it would crash it…
Like, you do realize the whole “decentralized” thing is why most of us are here, right?
OP is talking about the software all of the instances run on, not the individual servers themselves.
I would say that having a variety of software options also helps keep one party from having too much power, which is the main focus of federation. It’s not as important as having a variety of instances, but we can have both, so why not take advantage of it?
I would say that having a variety of software options also helps keep one party from having too much power
I don’t disagree, but since Mbin, Piefed, and Lemmy are all open-source and interoperable, none of them can ever have any meaningful power no matter which one became dominant, as each project can be forked if they go off the rails or if development from the OG devs stopped (as happened with Kbin, which was forked into Mbin).
As an example, the app ‘Organic Maps’ recently had controversy because the main dev was using donated funds for personal expenses without informing anyone. This caused a lack of trust, and it was just forked into CoMaps instead. That’s the inherent advantage of free and open-source software.
This is not about an instance, it is about a project.
And also, different people have different metrics for what constitutes “best”. Picking what one would think is “best” would not crash an instance. What are you talking about…
It would not crash an instance. What are you talking about…
Ah, someone who wasn’t around for the reddit exodus to Lemmy.
Read the last line in the comment you replied to.
I was using Lemmy, I now use Piefed and I quite satisfied (it’s not perfect, sure, neither am I ;).
Can’t recall why I switched but I know there was some technical reason.
To me, they’re just two ways (among a few more) of accessing the same fediverse. I use the Web UI, on a desktop computer as I don’t do social media on my phone.
I like piefed.
I dont have a client, just the web ui in my phones browser is fine.
It honestly just feels exactly like lemmy to me, but I prefer not to support lemmy for ideological reasons.
I have borh and i find mobile with firefox is still the best.
I used Lemmy for a few years, but switched to PieFed recently. They offer very similar functionality. PieFed suits me slightly better. I would be happy with either. And I’m still using Voyager.
Lemmy’s approach to moderation protects assholes. That’s why I’m on piefed.
How does piefed defend against acts like this?
It’s the thousand tiny decisions they’ve made by making content moderation a core priority. Account age requirements, reputation thresholds, abuse of power rules, and more help prevent sock puppets, vote manipulation, and power mad mods.
I will admit, I’m new here. But these are the reasons I’m here.
As soon as I can microblog straight to my own profile I’m sold. On mbin I had to make an admin only magazine for my microblogs to all be in one place.
Could you describe your problem in more detail?
Microblogs are always associated to your profile. If you want to post something which is not meant for a specific magazine, the
randommagazine is what you need to use. It is a pseudo-magazine (and so not federated as a community) which aggregates all microblog posts which are not attached to a real magazine.Yeah but like. Why not just straight to a profile? That’s what masto does.
What exactly do you mean “to a profile”? Can you give an example of the difference (I never used Mastodon)?
I switched to piefed to help it grow, although for me the lemmy experience is still superior, due to the difference in clients available for Android.
On Android, the Voyager Lemmy client is better than the Blorp Piefed client.
Since the blorp Dev reads these comments (thanks for making us free software!), here’s my list of features to bring blorp up to parity, from most to least important:
- Choose what type of link to share by default: community link, poster’s link, my instance link, or blorp link, or other… Currently when I want to share something, I have to open it on Voyager to get a link.
- Ability to select text in comments. Voyager has this in the context menu.
- Ability to hide read posts. Blorp has this setting but it doesn’t work. When I open piefed I see old posts, but on Voyager I see fresh stuff.
- Ability to download .webp images. Downloads fail, but I can “share” the file to a file manager and save it that way.
- Put the profile button on the bottom stripe so it is easier to reach.
When I moved from Lemmy to Piefed, I just dumped apps all together. I’ve been using the web version since and it works absolutely fine for my use. Granted, I mostly comment, having only created a few posts ever. So perhaps using built in “share” feature of phone OSs is useful, but besides that, the web version works great.
Would you be willing to try Summit? That also supports piefed instances for some time now.
I didn’t know voyager now supports piefed. Have to give it a try some time.
Trying it out, first step change post type to
cardfull!Edit: how do you actually post something? EDIT: it is the … Menu
You can also swipe left for voting and replying… in some views lol
Now that I’m saying it, it has some weirdness to it even though I’ve used it for months.
I thought Voyager supports piefed now?
it does. i am using voyager on piefed right now.
I guess I’m bad at logging in. Thanks.
I had to sign up for the experimental bug test version of Voyager to gain access to piefed compatibility, though that was several months ago now; not sure if it’s been added to the main version yet or not. I haven’t had any issues using the experimental version.
Hm, perhaps your instance needs to update to a newer version? I notice that it’s on 1.4.6, while Piefed.social is currently running version 1.5.3
EDIT: Ah, nevermind, 1.4.6 is only a couple weeks old! I was thinking of the gap in those releases in relation to Lemmy’s, where that would be a massive difference.
Is voyager updated to the latest release?
I have Voyager 2.43.2 which is the latest on fdroid and also the latest stable release on GitHub. Maybe it is on the blahaj side?
Hm, could be. Very strange it isn’t working for you :\
I can login to blahaj on blorp and summit piefed clients, just not Voyager.
It does. The only thing I miss compared to the Lemmy experience is that “auto fill title” does not work yet when link posting. However, most of the PieFed features aren’t integrated into Voyager yet, so it will be similar to the Lemmy experience but you will miss out a lot of PieFed stuff.
Ah, good to know. I’m already pretty happy with the lemmy voyager experience for just passive scrolling, and mostly do anything important (mod actions, longer comments, etc) on desktop anyway, so for me at least, that switch would be pretty seamless. Though hopefully Voyager supports more piefed features in the future!
Do you mind opening a GitHub issue? You can just make a single issue with that checklist. It’s just easier for me to track what needs to be done in GitHub instead of random Lemmy/PieFed comments. PieFed hide read should be an easy fix.
I wrote an article on my blog about it.
Link?
God damn haha thanks for posting it, I was sure I posted the link but apparently not ^^
You may want to update that with your current experience, as some of the points there no longer apply, like not having a stable API for 3rd party clients (which now exists).
Good point, I’ll Do that!
The number one issue with the fediverse in general is the tiny stagnant user base. Everything else is way too insignificant to matter. People could make as many fediverse platforms as they want, it doesn’t mean anything if nobody is using them.
Not so many people use Mastodon, yet they get all excited and flock to Bluesky. It is possible to entice people to join, if they are offered something that they want. They have expressed reasons for not joining, or leaving after joining even for months, perhaps we should try to improve things so that they feel more comfortable being here?
That’s actually why I like it better here. On Reddit I would doom scroll endlessly. Here I can take in my rage bait, get into pointless political arguments, and lament humanity’s future, and still get something accomplished that day.
Also lemmy doesn’t have the ‘karma’ system. There’s literally no point to karma farm here. Like, it doesn’t matter if my comments get downvoted to oblivion, it’s not hurting my imaginary score that I have to maintain to interact in certain big subreddits.
I’m new as of today. I joined piefed.zip. I think I’ll do alright here. I’m already on Mastodon.
Hardcoded censorship is a no no
What do you mean?
There was an allegation made some while back of Piefed having "hard-coded’ blocks of certain instances. In actuality there is a default setting when you spin up an instance to defederate from some of the most aggressive instances that are known to brigade, spam, and generally act trollish. You can simple uncheck those during or after setup though, so it’s a suggestion, not a forced state.
https://diggita.com/post/93963/91551
Sry for the hexbear thread, couldn’t find the sane post i got the info from in the first place.
TLDR
Piefed has a list of words that are banned and no instance can federate with others that use words like porn
It sounds like that comment chain is discussing two different things. First is the piefed default block list, which admins can edit as they please for their instance. Hexbear and lemmygrad are on there.
Second is the lemmy slur filter, which used to be applied across all of lemmy and was not configurable. That may have changed, but it isn’t clear how. But regardless, that doesn’t seem like a complaint about piefed, unless I am misunderstanding.
Huh, on one thread I notice cunt was censored, the comment still went through with removed under that word, while other swear words went through.
I hate that kind of censorship, bad words are case by case, just because people have used cunt in bad ways doesn’t mean no one should be able to use it, if it did the ill intentioned could disallow any word or argument by starting to use it, not all that hypothetical, the right co-opts left terminology and issues all the time, and discredits them with the sheep as such.
What you are talking about is way worse though, I find that disqualifying if true. Wtf? Is piefed started by religious extremists, trying to stay out of the crosshairs of extremists? Hate freedom of speech? Segregating from each other from some imperiously minded administrator deciding what’s good for us is a road to NOT overtaking social media that has become parasitic.
Fuck. I moved here from instance that was sinked. I need to move again? Is that true?
No, there’s no word censorship of posts or comments. Rimu did add in a word filter for instances to be able to use if they wanted - but it’s unused currently.
For piefed.social specifically, there are some words/phrases in the filter currently. Most of them are malicious links that have been spammed in the past or phrases that have been present among private message spam waves. Only one racial slur that I see in the list.
This is all configurable by site admins and not baked into the code.
Piefed has a list of words that are banned and no instance can federate with others that use words like porn
No, that’s not true. Piefed has no list of banned words. That specific function (which has been toned down) is purely for when a new instance wants to fetch new communities. It will ignore communities with specific keywords, most of them are just insults.
I suggest not purely relying on the word of Hexbear users who have never used Piefed and are trying to interpret the code.
I saw that in a very different thread, but search engines are useless nowadays.
The “most of them” part is (or was) a huge problem a bunch had been communities which the programmer had some weird personal agenda against.
Then why bring it up, if you aren’t certain? Let others who know do that? Anyway here are some details about the situation:
If you dont like it, fork it. Stop bothering us about it, we will never fully remove the slur filter.
It was actually Lemmy that had a hard-coded list of banned words, and those word above are from Nutomic, except that after a huge outcry the Lemmy devs did relent.
As Skavau said there was a recent issue where new communities would not automatically be brought in, but that’s not a “block” since they can always be added manually at any time. Even so, it was hard-coded (generally never a good thing to do in code), and it wasn’t highlighted in the code to make it easier for new instance admins to see and change unless they were reading through all of the code (which I think most instance admins have been doing so far?).
So it’s not “great”, but it’s not horrendous either, unlike the true hard-coded word block done by Lemmy.
Also, PieFed recently enabled allowing the showing of deleted posts. I think it’s a bug that the OP image is still showing (when OP deletes something they should have the right to make it disappear, but conversely those conversations started by their OP yet continued by others are not their property to dispense so readily), but anyway you can read through it here: https://piefed.social/post/1623152. Note that many things have already changed since then, e.g. Lemmy has walked back its own hard-coding of another matter, the centralization of using Lemmy.ml as the sole authoritarian control source to define the list of popular communities sent out to new instances (it is still hard-coded, despite all the outcry about hard-coding when done by the PieFed devs, but at least now it provides for some alternatives), plus deleted posts are a thing now, they’ve also been changed to be allowed automatically without needing to be triggered.
The difference in handling these matters between the PieFed vs. Lemmy devs is very notable. I’m tired of how people speak as if the Lemmy devs have never done any wrong and PieFed should not exist so as to make room for Lemmy. If people want to use Lemmy, they will, but the same for Piefed? The full details are there if you want to peruse them, unlike on Lemmy where a deleted post returns an empty page that acts as if the OP never used to exist in the first place.
The “most of them” part is (or was) a huge problem a bunch had been communities which the programmer had some weird personal agenda against.
Rimu does not like meme communities and 4chan culture, and piefed.social specifically will automatically erase all post from meme communities (and drama communities) after 6 months to save space (or at least that’s a partial reason). Other instances like piefed.world have disabled this function. There were other terms in the original code that blocked other things too, like “196” and “piracy” so new communities with those in the title could not be auto-fetched (although could still be added manually), but they’ve now been removed.
So, you don’t know what ‘hardcoded’ means, and your hexbear link just demonstrates why they’re stupid too?
The worry about a hard-coded list stems from Lemmy itself doing exactly that several years ago. And then when pressed, the response was:
If you dont like it, fork it. Stop bothering us about it, we will never fully remove the slur filter.
To be fair, after a huge outcry the Lemmy devs did eventually relent and removed the block. Yet somehow on hexbear and lemmygrad (see links to those in the context to this sub-thread above), Lemmy has never done anything wrong, and PieFed can never do anything right.
That’s enough reason right there for me to leave Lemmy behind. Thankfully PieFed exists or else I’d have to leave the Threadiverse altogether, and yet there will always be some who bring their false arguments around the defederation filters.
Since that time btw Lemmy has added an additional hard-coded filter that highly ironically - and hilariously to me - went even further towards propagating community lists, even while PieFed has significantly walked back its own such efforts in that regard. Not that they would ever acknowledge either of such, of course:-).
Thats bullshit misinformation.
PieFed has a default block list, of which HexBear is on it and a few other shitty nasty instances. It’s 100% editable from the admin menu and is not hardcoded at all.
What did I miss? What’s wrong with hexbear? Are you just a transphobe?
That’s terrible and immediately makes me question the trustworthiness and motivations of a dev team that decides to block instances by default.
I’m not saying they’re not trustworthy but that just feels icky.
If you’ve gotten to the point of something as advanced as spinning up your own instance of a federated software you probably know who you want to federate with.
Here is the list of defederated instances when a fresh install happens. This is editable in the admin UI after installation is complete. So, if you really want your instance to federate with the good folks of cum.salon, you are more than welcome to.
This is really just intended to provide what we think of as a good set of defaults for a typical user. Of course this is somewhat opinionated, just like something like an operating system has a set of opinionated defaults for stuff like default programs, window styling, etc.
I think the biggest thing is just including one of the oldest and most active instances in there. Hexbear (or Lemmygrad) is not everyone’s cup of tea but a default block, or even to lump them in with an instance like the one you mentioned is kinda crazy. Some of the other bigger instances out there federate with one or both just fine.
It’s also one of the most defederated instances around. People don’t want to interact with they site for a damn good reason.
Clearly it’s polarizing. Clearly anyone spinning up a new instance certainly would know what site of that fence they fall on.
They can remove it then.
It’s not polarising, it’s the norm.
The majority of all instances defederate with them.
Some of the other bigger instances out there federate with one or both just fine
I mean, the same is true for other PieFed instances. piefed.zip, for example, is federated with both (same admin team as lemmy.zip).
Like I said, this is inherently opinionated as any kind of defaults would be (themes, colors, user settings, etc.). I just don’t agree that just because an instance is old and active means that it is a positive influence on or provides a positive experience for the average user. Just like I don’t think forums like 4chan should be looked at positively just due to its age and activity. I know there are many that disagree with this, and there is nothing wrong with that.
Specifically, the piefed.social instance is a bit more opinionated than most other instances out there because rimu has pretty strong feelings about social media. Some of my contributions to the code have been to make PieFed less opinionated or to take some of those very strongly opinionated options/filters and make them configurable or optional at an admin level. So far, rimu has been pretty receptive to this kind of contribution.
At the end of the day, I am glad that all three threadiverse software platforms exist (people too often forget about mbin) and have been able to maintain a cordial working relationship. They each have different opinions, defaults, and features that might appeal to some users over others.
52·4 days agoI did a code review just about a week ago, see https://hexbear.net/comment/6827649 for what I found.
Some of your code review is not understanding that Piefed handles things differently. So in the context of blocking, if someone blocks you on piefed - you simply can’t reply to them anymore. This isn’t out of sync with how many services operate. Now Lemmy does not operate like this, but the disconnect between how Lemmy and Piefed handle it cause discrepencies like this.
if your reply contains a blocked_phrase, it won’t accept the comment.
This code exists, but is unused to my knowledge. Certainly for Piefed.social.
I also do not see this as inherently bad as it can be used to stop slurs.
If your account is created_very_recently and the reply contains an em dash (—) it sends a notification to the admins
This is anti-AI checking functions. Most of the other things you refer to generally here within the code are simply mitigation tools against spam, trolls and AI posters.
So in the context of blocking, if someone blocks you on piefed - you simply can’t reply to them anymore
And maybe it wouldn’t be a problem if we weren’t for federation. The result is a desync, where either all but the instance with the blocker can see the comment, or only the blocked users instance can see the comment.
Yes, it’s a contradiction with how lemmy handles the block function vs. how piefed currently handles it.
No. I can reply to my piefed.social account with the piefed.zip account it has blocked.
This code exists, but is unused to my knowledge. Certainly for Piefed.social.
wjs018 says it is in use, https://lemmy.ml/post/42044700/23491105 / https://piefed.social/comment/9793872
I hope that piefed will publish the blocked phrases in the api at some point, like lemmy publishes the slur regex in /site. (This isn’t trying to be “look lemmy is better,” I mean this)
Moderators of a community can kick you from a community, which unsubscribes you from it, and does not notify you.
Kindly pass this on, but this is actually defunct code that is not actually functionally active on Piefed.
Mostly everything else being complained about is objecting to Piefeds attempts to weeding out spammers, trolls and AI spammers with arguably punitive detective functions - but the purpose is to mitigate that.
not actually functionally active
What does that mean.
It doesn’t work even if he wanted it to. Rimu himself didn’t even add it. He’s not the only contributor to the code.
Ok, thanks for telling me.
Also I have said nothing about Rimu. And I know he isn’t the only contributor.
Can you please clearly state your argument? I have no idea what you mean.
Piefed and Lemmy are act-pub/fediverse software systems, same with Mastodon and many others. Since Lemmy and Piefed are so similar in their structure though as link aggregators that people vote and comment on you could think of them as the same network with different clients.
I switched from Lemmy to Piefed somewhere around piefed’s 1.15 version as I recall. On a technical front Piefed is a solid margin ahead in admin and usability features, at least as of when I switched. I haven’t noticed a major performance difference, but mine is a single user instance so that might be better shown at a larger scale. Lemmy was a bit easier to deploy initially since there wasn’t a need to have anything compile locally but rather just pull an image and go.
Ethically, I’m less concerned using Piefed than Lemmy. The devs of Lemmy are notoriously vocal in their support of Russia/China/Korea, and basically anything that could be considered in opposition of western liberal/progressive policies. This is troublesome since there is the potential for updates being made that help create even more aggressively divisive bubbles than we already have in many parts of the fedi. Those could be applied to any software of course, but the Lemmy devs make their stances quite visible in that regard.
There are a lot of tankies on lemmy, but I’ve only seen it on a couple of instances. It’s not worth the time to make common cause with them I’ve learned, they just want to make the cheap point of west bad, not fix anything, their whole point is it can’t be fixed. As if the alternative of getting a one party state would lead to a better outcome. They can’t even have their own opinions or make up their own minds it appears, they need permission from their leaders to even agree on something not already endorsed.
Since the Lemmy devs are awful, an alternative isn’t a bad idea (although the Lemmy design itself makes it less bad for Lemmy than it would be for a centralized service).
From a technical perspective, it’s definitely sad to use this kind of service provided by Python instead of Rust (even if I like and use both languages).
Ya, I think if it were the other way around, the nice devs using Rust and the not so nice devs using Python, the decision would be much easier.
The language really doesn’t have much to do with things like performance; at least not at the scale that most fedi instances operate at. For PieFed we are using the Flask framework and the overhead of an interpreted language and rendering jinja templates is absolutely negligible compared to the speed of the postgres database. Most of the performance optimizations we have had to make have been related to crafting better db queries or moving things like federation tasks to background workers.
Might Flask have trouble scaling to the size of reddit? Sure, but I don’t think that we necessarily need to optimize for a use case that may never happen and can also be alleviated by scaling out (more instances) rather than up. I know that rimu is already feeling like piefed.social is too big compared to other PieFed instances and has thought about closing registrations because of it. It is one of the reasons he made the built-in instance chooser, to try to move new users to other instances.
I wrote more about my thoughts on the pros/cons of python/flask in another comment.
The main benefit of Rust in our case is not performance, but correctness. Static typing, memory safety and test coverage ensure that things really work. There are no errors from null pointers or anything like that.
PieFed, which i used first, is harder to navigate. It seems to have blocked a lot of content from other instances and i’m not sure why
What instances?
Defederation/community blocking is fully adjustable by an instance admin, just like Lemmy.
As other people are saying, this is normal for all instances, and I wanted to point out that Lemmy also specifically blocks a ton of stuff from PieFed too, in cases where PieFed has implemented a feature but Lemmy has not.
Polls, hashtags, user and post flairs (the latter of which is halfway coming in Lemmy’s upcoming UI, although only in the server side while the UI will remain not yet implemented), and emoji reactions come immediately to mind, and I am certain there are others.
Plus PieFed aids in community discovery in so many ways, like combining together comments across cross-posts, and also PieFed renders the community side-bar (with explanation, rules, and links elsewhere) below every single post, so that looking at the same post on Lemmy vs. PieFed (caveat: most 3rd party apps have not caught up to all these features yet, so here I mean the web browser UI) looks very different.
it seems like piefed is gaining more features and is better on the server (lower resource uaage)
i’d like to switch, but the lemmy clients i use don’t support it…
What clients? I know a lot support it now, but it’s not exactly the best advertised change.
If not, try sending your devs a message about it to see if they can or are already working on it.
mlmym, gives me the old reddit interface. it’s unmaintained sadly.
If you ever want to switch, and definitely want to use a 3rd party app rather than webpage UI for some reason, Voyager is FOSS, extremely popular (I think #1 across the entire Threadiverse?), and works for both Lemmy and PieFed, though the latter has extra features (mainly those enacted server-side that you may have to rarely visit the webpage UI to enable but then will continue working from the app).
thanks, i already know about voyager. i use boost and voyager on mobile which both has support for piefed. the problem is mlmym, i really prefer the old reddit styled ui on desktop but there’s no equivalent for piefed.
I thought one of the themes was supposed to be more similar, but that wouldn’t help from an app. Yeah if that is your criteria then I guess you are stuck. Ooof, until Lemmy itself stops working on mlmym - since you mentioned it is unmaintained. Btw Lemmy 1.0 is coming out sometime soon-ish iirc, so you might be prepared with an export JSON of your settings and blocklists, just in case.
Then again, hasn’t your instance barely received any updates for a long time now? You might be on one of the very few instances that won’t have to worry about being upgraded to 1.0… but on the other hand, your instance may not survive someday either.
Oh, there is a blop alternate UI, see in use at https://blorp.piefed.world/home
In the end, you gotta stay with what works for you, for as long as you can - I get it:-).
