Wasnt really a Luigi style shooting from what little Wikipedia has to offer so far. Dude just killed a bunch of random people and then offed himself. Literally just a mass shooting.
He killed:
- Didarul Islam, a 36-year-old off-duty police officer (ACAB)
- Blackstone executive Wesley LePatner (…)
- Julia Hyman, a recent college graduate working for Rudin (questionable)
- Aland Etienne, a 46-year-old security guard (probably not a cop considering it wasnt specified like with the other one)
Definitely not a targeted assassination. Still better than doing it in a school or club tho.
Still better than doing it in a school or club tho.
I don’t know why, but this sentence gave me a chuckle
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Now that CEOs can die in mass shootings, maybe real prevention of mass shootings can happen.
Silly goose. They’ll just hire more private security.
Welcome to the cyberpunk future we all
dreadeddreamed of!Ok. Now where is my fucking chrome and cyberdeck? I feel cheated cause we got all the dystopian shit but not the cool shit
Sorry bub, best we can do is a pair of meta raybans and a crappy android
Private security needs to protect him all the time. The Mario Bros only need to succeed once.
Sorry Mario, your CEO is in another castle
Well, maybe let a few more of them get caught up before we make those changes.
It really has to be targeted to send a message. Not that anyone should desire to do so that would be bad and illegal.
It really depends on what message you’re trying to send. If you’re trying to say “executive officers are fair game”, it has to be targeted at executives.
If you’re trying to say “conduct your suicidal rampage in a boardroom, not a classroom”, mission accomplished.
Literally just a mass shooting.
Blackstone executive Wesley LePatner (…)
Oh well, at least it took place in a place where the people doing actual damage to society are,instead of a kindergarden like usual.
Also, maybe it might make more people aware of what’s happening these days.
Just to be clear and without taking sides: Wesley LePatner appears to have been the CEO of the real estate portfolio of rental units. Literally the person most responsible for Blackstone buying up US housing at an alarming rate.
LePatner, 43 years old, was the $1.2 trillion firm’s global head of Core+ real estate and CEO of Blackstone Real Estate Income Trust, the company’s juggernaut real estate fund for individual investors.
Oh damn. I didn’t see this before. No wonder my last comment got downvoted so much lol.
Oh thank God. I thought it was the Blackstone that makes grill tops. I kept wondering what they did wrong.
Marketing team did an excellent job choosing a name for the company. You want the most discreet, unassuming name possible for “corporation that owns literally everything and is ruining the economy by principle”
doesnt deservered to be murdered, but no ones going to cry over a POS
Yeah, wouldn’t surprise me if the guy got evicted by them or something like that.
He literally had the wrong floor. Complete coincidence that his random act of violence happened to kill someone doing something evil, no one should be praising this guy.
Apparently, when the only justice in the world is accidental, people still praise the accident as a wonderful accident.
Whether you like it or not.
The scenario where nobody should be praising is the one where CEOs buy up tens of thousands of houses, and rig the prices so that hundreds of thousands of people are negatively affected by rent increases. Sometimes they end up on the street. Where they die.
That’s the part that you’re ignoring as you pretend to have a sense of morality.
It’s not an accident. There’s a high chance of randomly killing someone evil if you walk into any Park Ave office building.
Yeah, so far this basically sounds to me like if the guy from Falling Down walked into the building Patrick Bateman works at.
At worst, from a tactical effectiveness standpoint.
If it actually was a more or less specifically targeted attack, it would absolutely make sense that this would be massively underplayed and misconstrued by the broad media…
Because the last thing the broad media wants, is a lot of pissed off, suicidal, heavily armed Americans realizing that this can actually be a shockingly effective tactic, for those with nothing left to lose, ready to meet God or w/e.
The broader media being basically a totally corporate owned affair, that really, really would prefer it not become normalized that … (semi?) random corpos just start getting gun downed in roughly the American version of insurgent suicide tactics, who are to a great extent capable of acting totally solo and are thus impossible to completely prevent at scale.
Call it the ‘final form’ of ‘I’d like to speak with your manager’.
I think this development is already a part of the elite survival plan though. It won’t take much for the high net-worth individuals to avoid the street level altogether. The only people actually dying will be their lackies and stooges. And you’ll see a lot more autonomous defense systems popping up to mitigate the damage.
Genuinely, what is your source that he had ‘the wrong floor’?
To have ‘the wrong floor’ implies there was a ‘correct floor’, which implies either a premeditated set person or set of persons as a target, or a known location associated with some kind of organization or something.
If it was a random ‘just hurt people’ type of mass shooting, there cannot really be a ‘wrong floor’, beyond maybe a comparison between overall target rich snd target sparse environments…
Or perhaps it was ‘the wrong floor’ in the sense of ‘the correct floor’ being one that worked with some kind of egress, escape plan?
Seriously, what do you mean by ‘the wrong floor?’
He was gunning for the NFL not Blackstone. Thus wrong target/floor.
And what is your source on that?
I am again, genuienly asking for a source.
This is a recent event, I am not up to speed on the reporting on this, can you please provide a source that his target was the NFL?
The source is the suicide note. The various articles covering this story almost all mention it just read some of them. Hes not perfectly explicit in the note but it seems pretty clear that was his intended target based on what’s contained in it.
Do you have any sources on that? I haven’t seen anything that talks about a potential motive yet.
https://apnews.com/article/manhattan-office-shooting-nfl-nyc-d32bec88dfe208af1a413cec02034a14
Shane Tamura, a Las Vegas casino security worker, was carrying a handwritten note in his wallet that claimed he had chronic traumatic encephalopathy, known at CTE, investigators said. He accused the league [NFL] of hiding the dangers of brain injuries linked to contact sports.
Thanks, I guess if that’s a note in his wallet it’s clear enough. You could’ve gone on any floor in that building and killed someone that deserved it, apparently.
The NFL was on another floor, he just fucked up and got the wrong target.
The Lord works in mysterious ways.
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I didn’t see that earlier. I think the news hadn’t mentioned this until much later. I understand why my other comment was downvoted so much.
Wait there’s a company called “Blackstone” as well as one called “Blackrock”, and both buy up real estate?
Also a company called Vanguard. The 3 of them own almost everything
They manage these huge funds. The people who invested in their funds own the stocks in the funds. Though these companies do vote during stockholder meetings on behalf of their clients without the clients inputs. Thus they wield a lot of power over many companies but they don’t own it all. If all their clients decide to drop them and liquidate they lose all that power.
The 3 of them own almost everything
Do they though? They do own a lot but sovereign wealth funds do too plus, unlike those AFAICT, one can easily switch from say a Vanguard ETF to whatever other investment vehicle they want in an instant. So yes they have tremendous power, too much, and they contribute to shaping markets worldwide… but it’s also not their actual money and other economical actors do exist.
So I’d argue “own” and “almost everything” is a big exaggerated.
PS: I’m not an economist so that’s just my candid understanding.
There was great writeup about it a few years ago that I can’t remember the name of at the moment. Basically, they all own each other as well. They all own portions of every company and together they all own over 50% in so many things that they have a controlling vote in a majority of board rooms. That is a VERY birds eye view of it but it’s not good.
They all own portions of every company and together they all own over 50% in so many things that they have a controlling vote in a majority of board rooms.
Thanks for the clarification. If you do find the article I’d be curious because if I check the
- total market cap, it’s roughly $100T (just order of magnitude) cf e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_stock_market_capitalization whereas
- Vanguard $10T AUM
- BlackRock $10T AUM
- State Street Corporation $5T AUM
- Fidelity $5T AUM
- Charles Schwab Corporation $10T AUM
and others https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_asset_management_firms whereas sovereign wealth funds https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_wealth_fund#Largest_sovereign_wealth_funds are only up to $2T.
So… if I do roughly the sum of AUM I don’t even get to half of $100T. Maybe they have controlling shares (to define here because not sure I understanding correctly, i.e. single seat on board vs majority of seats in order to actual control) somehow in the US with a total valuation under $50T but somehow overall I don’t see how. Also together would mean some kind of coordination, which I’m not saying is impossible but beside generating more money I’m not sure they have a “goal” that would imply using said control.
Isn’t Vanguard 401ks? Or is that a different Vanguard?
Yes
Blackstone is private equity. Blackrock makes the funds normal people buy for their retirement accounts.
blackrock buys the German chancellor.
Blackrock doesn’t do real estate at all. People have been confusing the two companies for a while. It’s Blackstone you should hate for the housing crisis
Is it bad I constantly confuse it for blackwater instead? I guess they murder the previous tenants, then buy up the house?
I swear, if there is a higher power, it just woke the fuck up
It may have been an incidental killing, but her loss will not be mourned by the general public, as she and her efforts are actually a direct and major contributor to the housing crisis we now face. The policies that she enacted are overly hostile towards… you know… literally every fucking normal person who aspires to own a house at some point. She materially contributed to the insane housing price bubble that’s somehow still not popping.
Thats because its not hard to pit home owners against those who currently can’t afford a home. People who were able take advantage of circumstance in order to purchase a home need to be far more honest about why they are able to have one now.
Totally. This is a function of 1) greed, but also 2) our lack of social safety net – which incentivizes us to maximize personal wealth even beyond what we might need, just because without a personal nest egg, there are very few resources you can count on to help you or your family out in emergencies, or during the crashes and other ravages of capitalism.
Or as Thatcher put it: there is no society, there are only individuals and families. That wasn’t always true, but it’s becoming truer ever financial quarter.
Hard agree. He’s no martyr like Luigi. Just another psycho destroying our society
Eh… society started it
Sure, it wasn’t exactly like Luigi but living afraid of being offed by some rando with mental health issues who doesn’t even know who you are is a fear the working class knows all too well and the owning class indirectly created.
nah they pretty directly created it.
virtually every mass shooting is blood on the hands of our ruling class. when they refuse to correct it, rather than being unable to, it becomes apparent what they value more - people or profits?
I meant indirectly in the sense that they didn’t actually give someone a gun and told them “go shoot people” but yeah, you’re right.
He shot a Blackstone CEO, yet when I search for him the media reports on his football career as a potential reason?What the hell? America is not in a position where the assassination of CEOs needs to be explained. The question is how some of them can still show their faces in public.Edit: See comments below. I’m dumb and/or jumping to conclusions too quickly.
You’d be right if he only shot a Blackstrone CEO. But apparently he shot 4 random people, one of them turned out to be a Blackstone CEO. That’s different.
At first I only read that it was a building housing finance institutions, so I figured he had probably just snapped and figured he’d attack the world of finance. So crazy, but driven by the state of everything rather than by some random sports career.
I didn’t see that it also housed the NFL. Makes the Football story a lot more plausible. So the CEO might indeed just have been a random bystander like anyone else at the scene.
In either case it’s obviously not a defendable of constructive thing to do, I just speculated that maybe there’s bigger things in America to lose your mind over than football. Maybe I was wrong.
In either case it’s a reflection of the mental health crisis.
This headline can easily be part of an intended effort to associate the luigie situation with any shooting of a CEO or business leader. Reasons matter. Protecting luigie means enforcing strict conceptual differentiating between him and other acts of violence. We know there’s a difference, we need to enforce that difference in every space the topic comes up. As soon as Luigie is successfully lumped in with random acts of violence, he loses the public sentiment that is his best protection.
Reasons matter.
I mean, you’re not going to want to scratch to hard at Luigi Mangione. He’s a few shades shy of a Zizian, himself. Luigi was deep in with the Silicon Valley Longtermists and a big fan of techno-libertarianism.
That doesn’t mean Brian Thompson didn’t deserve to have his skull ventilated. It just means you aren’t going to want to turn the shooter into a Messiah figure.
You’re literally doing what I just described.
I think the tech bros are just trying to claim him as their own. They can’t have him. I think Luigi was mostly about volunteering at old folks homes and rehabilitating dogs rescued from fighting rings and puppy mills.
And sit ups. I was pissed when I seen that 8 pack… beers don’t even come in that size…
His popularity, certainly. But I’m not seeing Curtis Yarvin lining up to support gacking any of his biggest sugar daddies.
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He took the wrong elevator. He was looking for the NFL offices as he blamed them for his CTE. Only one person he shot worked for the NFL.
Chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) is a condition that may result from head injuries, especially in athletes of contact sports like boxing or football. The condition slowly damages parts of the brain and may cause trouble with memory, other thinking skills, behavior, personality, speech or balance.
So, when the NFL encourages an unsafe sport that damages the brains of their members to the point that they can no longer find the correct elevator to the floor of the NFL, that’s not the NFL’s fault? They’re out there encouraging people to concuss themselves stupid every single day. “It’s safe!”. No, it isn’t. It’s dangerous, and nobody gives a shit about the player’s brain damage.
I’m glad to see the players fighting back. Maybe it’ll spark yet another discussion about football players and boxers not having enough protection for their sport.
“Not enough protection, we need better equipment”
“So, you want a higher salary, right? Because we want to see blood and injuries. If you don’t want to do it, we’ll find someone else willing to lobotomize themselves for a way out of crushing poverty. Why do people think the NFL is evil?”
Not just encourage but actively suppress research into
I know it’s probably a coincidence, but it feels very on brand for USA that instead of playing football like the rest of the world, USA decided to replace football with a game where you carry an egg in your hands and give each other brain damage.
Brain damage is a consequence of of other sports as well, but the braindead hand-egg meme already betrays that you don’t actually want to think about it.
I have a bridge to sell you
Oo, I’ve always wanted one of those! Does it go to terabithia??
That’s what the news decided to start saying after they found out he got a Blackstone CEO anyways.
Yeah, the media is not suppressing some working class hero story here. It’s just a man who lost his marbles.
I mean, this is still pretty Luigi. A man striking out an evil corporation violently. I wouldn’t put the NFL’s crimes at the same level as UHC’s. But they still churn through and destroy people like the shooter. It’s ultimately the same form of anti-corporate vigilantism.
Luigi singled out one incredibly evil man and dealt with him. This guy shot one random CEO seemingly by accident, as well as some random people.
Kill five random people in the NYC financial district and chances are at least a couple will be deplorable. That doesn’t make you a vigilante.
One was an assassination, the other was a mass shooting.
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bro stopped a mass murderer
Something about dicks fucking assholes
This isn’t even close to the same thing
This is HORRIBLE! DOESNT he know that if you Want to Commit a MASS SHOOTING in the United States you MUST Target a SCHOOL and NOT places where Rich People wor"KKK"?
So inconsiderate! That CEO had a bright future ahead of him.
Her
How could someone do this. The line was going up!
And I can’t believe he shot that new intern. The other CEOs and managers were looking forward to humiliating and mentally torturing them! The evening’s entertainment was ruined!
I didn’t read anything about a Blackstone CEO being shot…
This is disinformation and is glorifying a murderer. I don’t care who the intended target was. You don’t kill other innocent people over it.
Wow they’re really trying to imply misogyny there.
I read the article you responded to. Not sure which bit implied misogyny. Did skim it so maybe I missed it?
They’re focusing heavily on her work mentoring women in a very similar way to how articles focused on the Brian Thompson’s humble roots. That narrative attempts to frame her as the “pro woman” side. The implications exist in the rhetorical negative space, that there was a murder and if the victim was so pro woman, what does that say about the killer? And the actual answer is nothing, we don’t know enough about the murderer to be certain of their motivations but it sure doesn’t look to be about that.
Ok, I can see it now, just. Feels like a stretch TBH. Two men, two women killed, none planned ahead as deliberate targets. I mean maybe, but…
They’re just throwing anything out there.
Gotta be honest I don’t give a single fuck about a Blackstone executive that was in charge of real estate specifically.
Blackstone is evil in general, but its real estate division is even higher up the scumbag charts.
They’re literally part of the ever-worsening homelessness crisis.
Some of the deaths here are a damned shame though, and the whole story of it is basically a top to bottom American tragedy.
Edit: Only slightly relatedly, Ashli Babbit’s story is similarly top to bottom an American tragedy viewed from a different angle. The lady spent most of her life falling for scams and getting fleeced and then got killed (justifiably though it was) because she fell for one of the country’s biggest scams.
Damn, he did a Donald Glover IRL.
Metal.
I have a feeling he didn’t mean to kill the blackstone ceo, just a stroke of good luck
At least something positive came out of this tragedy.
almost certainly he intended to go after the NFL people
God works in mysterious ways
One of life’s happy little accidents
Maybe schools in America need to start getting CEOs to come and do talks there for the kids. Then maybe there can be considerably more happy little accidents out of horrific events that have no solution.
Do we have to, though?
We sure don’t. Leave that forced and highly toxic false positivity bullshit to the corporates (fuck reddit) and tell the truth here.
Whether by accident or not, at least one scumbag died.
Am I honestly happy about it? Not really.
Happy would be if I heard instead the ceo talked to the board and they had a change of heart and were, idk, gifting all their properties to their current residents.
And I’m not literally glad someone died. Not really. I just wish they weren’t such pieces of shit to begin with.
I hope the CTE guy gets help but to my very limited knowledge and barely qualified as a layperson understanding, that’s not a thing.
The CTE guy killed himself… and no if he actually had CTE (Its impossible to definitively diagnose while you are still alive) he was basically doomed. There are only really treatments to slow progression.
He doesn’t have CTE anymore!
the sub is afraid of being suspended thats why. also the shooter was originally targeting the ceo, she just happen to be collateral. The MSMs are framing it as a “mass shooter” to avoid another LUIGI situation(the arrests, public knowledge)
A lot of billionaires have died this year
Respect.
