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    The worry is that your family will go to the US and eat something awful and become maimed.

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      The secret trick is not going to the US until radical changes in their government.

      The world is a big place with many things to see, just choose some other country for your vacations.

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        Oh I’m staying away it’s just that I’m worrying about others who aren’t paying attention to the wickedness in Uncle Sam.

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      Haha! I already avoided going to USA for being the fucking leech sucking all the blood of the world, now I extra super duper avoid it!

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    Joke’s on us. Remember the ‘great deal’ for 15% tariffs? Guess what was included in that. Yep: Better access to the EU market for US agricultire products and the axing of what they call “unfair” trade barriers. Which includes among others plant-health measures, health regulations, vehicle safety regulations and more generally easier mutual recognition of assessments of conformity.

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        Not that I know of. There have been discussions around putting some of that into legislation though. I’m not sure about how serious that is, since most of all of this is done behind closed doors.

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    Tin Foil Hat time: So what the gov/corps wants to do is make those people who cook their own food become sick/distrustful of safe food so they buy the heavily processed premade products from the tobbacco…I mean FOOD companies filled with all their artificial ingredients that hook you into a junk food addiction downward spiral.

    …now that I say (write) that out loud (virtually) it doesn’t sound that far fetched

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      filled with all their artificial ingredients that

      filled with all their artificial intelligence that

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        Americans have a weird idea that fast food isn’t just mostly the same ingredients you see in a store + sugar and preservatives and that by cooking you somehow elevate the ingredients to a higher quality.

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          There is research showing that processed foods are worse for you, even if the exact mechanism isn’t clear. Plus there are more opportunities for various contamination, a lot of the recalls you see for dangerous pathogens seem to be premade food products. Although yeah, fast food would also have that problem.

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            Almost all foods are processed and most are some degree of premade. You better hope so too, because “processing” gets rid of like the insanely high risk of contamination that food has in nature. Eating meat of a deer carrying some virus or bacteria or simply being poisoned by fungi affecting some plant was how non-agricultural humans died a lot, and it’s only once we started processing everything, like e.g. ultra heat-treated & pasteurized milk that food quality improved.

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        They’re not, highly processed foods are made with 'addictive chemical’s. This is what the tobacco companies saw in the food market and why the bought up all the food processing companies.

        So if real food is bad you’re going to get the ‘safer’ product.

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    About 10 years ago I worked for a company that wrote software for restaurants’ food safety inspectors in South Dakota… All 3 of them… 3 people to inspect every restaurant in the entire state. They were over 5 years behind on some of the inspections.

    If that’s how food safety was prioritized back then, just think what it must be like today.

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      Your experience is not universal, but it is also not unique. South Dakota has one of the lowest population densities in America and I think you’ll find if you look around that most places similar to it have similar experiences with food safety inspections, in restaurants and in manufacturing, worldwide.

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    YSK that average or even lower quality meat from the EU would almost always be considered ‘premium’ by US standards. What Americans eat on a daily basis is straight up illegal in the EU. Leave it to the richest country on the planet to feed its citizens with literal poisoned trash.

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          To expand on this example, people worry about the bleach when they hear this but it’s not used at dangerous levels as I remember it.

          The issue is the meat is so disgusting in the first place it needs to be washed to not kill off its consumers. We don’t wash meat in Europe, because we have standards

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            To go even further, in Japan they have a breed of chicken so clean that it’s eaten as sushi. Here in the US, undercooked chicken or unwashed eggs are a salmonella risk - as is pretty much any other food due to contamination. There was a massive recall on lettuce a few years ago across the country for salmonella contamination.

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              Which is also why the advice in any actual first world country is not to wash meat, because the small amount of bacteria that may be present which cooking will deal with, just ends up in your sink ready to contaminate everything else

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                That is the USDA/USFDA advice as well. the “wash” takes place in the slaughterhouse and Europeans just use different chemicals.

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              Nah, Japan just takes that risk and minimizes it by butchering the chicken much closer to the time it us served. In the USA your bird was killed much earlier and preserved by chilling/freezing.

              There’s no magic breed of chicken that has no salmonella.

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      How do you think we became the richest country on earth? Capitalism run amok and fucking people over.

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      Americans eat as if they had an excellent healthcare system. Or a healthcare system at all.

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        It’s the opposite: the state has no responsibility to heal anyone, so they don’t give a crap about prevention through regulation.

        They eat exactly as the healthcare system they have.

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      Can confirm. The UK has some of the most delicious meat I’ve tasted, and I know for a fact that someone right now living in the EU cringed internally just reading this sentence lol

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        Nah the UK adopted EU food safety standards in full and didn’t get rid of them post brexit.

        …yet.

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          Soon US “beef” (may or may not contain animal protein) and US “nacho cheeze” (contains no dairy) will be all over the UKs shelves.

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          Good to know! Canadians embarrass themselves copying America in this regard.

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      Do you think no one cooks or something?

      Edit. Apparently cooking is bad if you’re American.

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            “the rest of the world” / “Europe” / “Nordics”

            Take your pick.

            https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC300778/

            Fat land: how Americans became the fattest people in the world Reviewed by: Samuel Klein Greg Critser… Fat land: how Americans became the fattest people in the world. 2004.University of California Press: Houghton Mifflin Company. Boston, Massachusetts, USA.224 pp. $24.00. ISBN: 0-618-16472-3 (hardcover).Inline graphic

            We are in the midst of a national obesity crisis, and Americans are getting heavier. Today, about 65% of adults and 15% of children and adolescents in the US are overweight or obese.

            Two thirds of adults are obese. that’s horrifying.

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        are you buying the meat from a butcher that only sources from local farmers? If you can afford that, yeah it’s probably on par with what Euros can buy in a grocery store. If you can’t afford that, then it doesn’t really matter if you’re the one cooking it or not, the meat is gonna be low quality.

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          Yes, grocery stores source food from local farms.

          We don’t have animals made of corn sugar. You can dismount from your high horse.

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          Most American cities no longer have local butchers, it’s not like Europe. Many are reliant on bigbox stores for their base necessities especially in rural areas. So it’s not even a class issue, it’s an accessibility issue. It’s the reason why companies started rolling out subscriptions like Butcher Box. You’d never see that sort of thing take off in Europe.

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        I don’t see show cooking oversugared toxins is gonna make them less toxic.

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            No, I live in an extremely shitty world where a majority of people are selfish idiots who only focus on their own bellies.

            But I am Finnish and although (I find the country much more problematic than most would assume — vis-a-vis the population’s self-imposed authoritarianism), our food regulation isn’t too shabby.

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              vis-a-vis the population’s self-imposed authoritarianism

              People voted for conservatives didn’t they?

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                Thus the “self-imposed”, although it’s not just about the current government.

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      Genuinely can’t think of anything we eat that comes from there. It’s too far for anything fresh and too expensive for anything cheap.

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          That’s true, I can’t even tell you that you have no idea what you are talking about, otherwise thought police will rush through my door and kill me on sight for the sin of freely talking

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          tell me you’ve never lived in Europe without telling me you’ve never lived in Europe.

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      Europeans watching Americans receiving death threats from their president for saying military shouldn’t do illegal stuff 👀

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    And do not be mistaken, the US wants this for Europe too. They want a few rich people to dictate everything world wide.

    Eat our chlorine chicken!

    Fuck. That. Shit.

    Europe is already moving in wrong directions here and there (hello chat control) so we gotta be enormously careful that they won’t bend the knee on anything else

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    WEAKENED regulations??? How much weaker could they get??? Our diet is already 103% high fructose corn syrup. The other 47% is grease!

    SOME people tell me that those numbers don’t add up, but I checked. They do add up. 103% + 47%. Those are the numbers! What? You think I’m wrong??? I’m using the same math skills they taught in 11th grade at public schools, here in the USA! Basic math! I know my stuff! Even Scott Steiner checked my math. He said it spells disaster for you at sacrifice!

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      It’s a historical fact that Europeans are very bad at math, since they waste so much time on useless topics like history in school. In the US, we do it right: The Book about American history is about 3 times thicker than the world history book! No time wasted on heathen stuff like the Age of Enlightenment or the blasphemic utterings of old greeks!

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        US history and World History are taught as two separate subjects. Ypu should know more of your own history than that of foreign nations because US history is more directly relevant to modern Americans lives than say the Crusades or the history of Denmark would be.

        A lot of what you are complaining about is that the USA isn’t as Eurocentric as you would hope they would be.

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          I’d say it is rather important to know where you are coming from. The people colonizing the USA did not appear out of thin air, but out of a complex group of nations with a wealth of backgrounds, which is completely lost if you don’t learn enough about the world at large. And this is not about eurocentrism at all, since there are a lot of people out of African and Asian nations too.

          I also think it is not surprising that the average American doesn’t know shit about the complicated development of the human race, which comes with a shocking ignorance towards ideas like humanism and why the founding fathers were so adamant about the separation of church and state, which is increasingly becoming lost in the USA (hint: it’s because the founding fathers knew about all this stuff!).

          If you compress 10,000 years into a third of 250 years, this is what you get.

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      You know they say that all men are created equal, but you look at me and you look at Lost_My_Mind and you can see that statement is not true. See, normally if you go one on one with another commentor, you got a 50/50 chance of winning. But I’m a genetic freak and I’m not normal! So you got a 25%, AT BEST, at beat me. Then you add Kurt Angle to the mix, your chances of winning drastic go down. See the 3 way at Sacrifice, you got a 33 1/3 chance of winning, but I, I got a 66 and 2/3 chance of winning, because Kurt Angle KNOWS he can’t beat me and he’s not even gonna try! So Lost_My_Mind, you take your 33 1/3 chance, minus my 25% chance and you got an 8 1/3 chance of winning at Sacrifice. But then you take my 75% chance of winning, if we was to go one on one, and then add 66 2/3 per cents, I got 141 2/3 chance of winning at Sacrifice. See Lost, the numbers don’t lie, and they spell disaster for you at Sacrifice.

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      WEAKENED regulations??? How much weaker could they get???

      DO.NOT.CHALLENGE.THEM!

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    I think a lot of Americans would be surprised, like I was when I moved here, that EU stores will sell chicken products from China, but not the United States.

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    It may be shocking that American food can get any worse considering they’re 50% corn syrup and 50% microplastics but somehow American corporations found a way, soon they’ll probrally start adding sawdust to bread like they used to before the FDA

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        Ja, they label it as cellulose. Technically true and something that does have valid food manufacturing uses, but using it as filler is ridiculous.

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      You think that’s bad, milk was so much worse. Companies fed cows leftover brewing grains which made their milk shitty, added cow brain to imitate cream, plaster of Paris to whiten it, and formaldehyde to preserve it. Thousands of kids died because of it and it’s a big part of why the FDA was founded in the first place.

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          OP forgot to mention that everything they were talking about was going on over 119 years ago as the FDA was founded in 1906

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            I didn’t forget, the context of who I replied to said “like they used to before the FDA” and I provided an example of what was happening before the FDA. Also yeah it was over a hundred years ago but what do you suppose has made stories like swill milk seem like a thing of the past? It’s not capitalists being more enlightened or empathetic it’s regulation. Those stories and more are going to pop back up again as the US guts the FDA

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      Unclear how true this is but I was told years ago that Taco Bell cut their beef with cellulose…so…cardboard so Jokes on you, we may have figured out the sawdust angle years ago. Capitalist innovation baby